medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
And you are right. yrs, c.t.ault
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:06:00 -0500
Christine Gray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>For Oedipus, I thought oida- meant swollen and -pus referred to foot.
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> Christine Gray
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>For the Byzantines, it was blinding, because a blind person could not
>be
> an emperor or a priest. I think the nose thing was just insulting.
>
> Blinding was important. The Byzantine Emperor had first to be
>accepted
> by the army [then by the Senate] & presumably the army did not
>accept
> one incapable of leading the army.
>
> I have ever understood why blinding is considered emasculation.
> That is
> so often said about Oedipus, too, but the Greeks really could tell
>the
> difference. In Oedipus, blinding has to do with knowing -- the
>first
> part of the name Oida- means "I saw" and "I know," & Oedipus has
>taunted
> T-whose-name-I-cannot-spell with blindness. I think blinding for
>the
> Byzantines combines a memory of that with the OT requirement that
> sacrificial animals be unblemished. I could be wrong. But
>physical
> impediments did not necessarily prevent one from becoming emperor --
> there was Michael the Stammerer [though it more reliably translates
>as
> speech-impaired -- we don't know if he stammered or lisped or what].
>
> DW
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> Kevin Teo wrote:
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>culture
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>> As far as I know, the mutilation of the body specifically the nose)
>>in
> Byzantine culture, when committed upon a dethroned basileus, was a
>form of
> "emasculation", and it was a means of statement with regards to the
> inability of the deformed basileus to rule anymore.
>>
>> Kevin Jang
>>
>> --- Ms B M Cook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>> culture
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>>> But does it have anything to say about moral depravity (eg incest)
>>> or mental
>>> retardation ?
>>>
>>> BMC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I find nothing about birth defects in:
>>>>
>>>> Edward Peters, The Shadow King: Rex inutilis in medieval law and
>>>> literature (Yale UPr, 1970).
>>>>
>>>> Tom Izbicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>>> culture
>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if the fact that a heir in a county, duchy or
>>>>>
>>> even
>>>
>>>>> kingdom
>>>>> was deformed, f.i. hunchbacked, could prevent him from
>>>>>
>>> succeeding? Could
>>>
>>>>> that have been a biblical or canonical nono? Still a duke like
>>>>>
>>> Godfrey
>>>
>>>>> III
>>>>> of Lotharingia (+1076) was called the Hunchback. Or was that
>>>>>
>>> based on
>>>
>>>>> misinformation at the chronicler's-level?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Henk
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