Klaus, Chuck, others...
Yes, but doesn't that still beg the question of the relationship between the
two?
In linguistics and cognitive science, cognitive linguistics (CL) refers to
the school of linguistics that understands language creation, learning, and
usage as best explained by reference to human cognition in general.
That doesn't mean reducing everything to cognition, but rather understanding
and using language as a way to represent cognitive dimensions of designing
(e.g. thinking/willing/feeling - "problem solving," both unconscious and
conscious - the socialization of designing).
On this view, the insights from Rittel's experience became language, were
represented and shared in language. They didn't originate there as though
it were some detached medium. I imagine - and of course it's just that -
Rittle reaching for metaphor to explain qualities that seemed more and more
at odds with conceptions of method that didn't fit complex situations, and
then adding a little extra promotional polish with the term "wicked" to draw
attention. Attending to... is another cognitive dimension.
But I'll look forward to your responses. I'm sure it's become obvious that
I only know enough about this to be dangerous and would be pleased to learn
more.
Kindest regards,
Jerry
On 4/24/07 10:35 AM, "Klaus Krippendorff" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> jerry, chuck,
>
> the distinction between tame and wicked is a distinction horst rittel made in
> language -- not in cognition.
>
> it is defined and elaborated in writing that reflects a substantial amount of
> experiences of planning and decision making especially in the public domain
> where multiple stakeholders make competing claims, have conflicting
> preferences for solutions, etc. and rational problem solving just doesn't work
>
> language, writing, socially shared phenomena are not reducible to individual
> cognition or mere tools thereof -- which is not to say that individual
> understanding is critical, but it is always only a part of it.
>
> if everything would be reduced to cognition, we would live in the stone age
>
> klaus
>
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>
> Chuck, Klaus, et al,
>
> Aren't concepts, such as wickedness, just mental tools for cognition?
>
> Best,
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On 4/23/07 6:29 AM, "Charles Burnette" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Klaus,
>>
>> Social phenomena must eventually be addressed by the thoughts of the
>> individuals concerned. They don't develop beliefs, needs or desires
>> otherwise. Difficult social problems where individual views have
>> hardened into "cultural artifacts" usually require outside mediation -
>> that is to say fair minded social "designers" of which there is a
>> paucity in the world today.
>>
>> Everything is reducible to individual cognition if it is to have
>> meaning and be understood. Cognition is a mediating process not an object.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Chuck
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