What military trials have been shonky? Which ones? Are you speaking
from a position of knowledge or did you let "senior jurists" make your
mind up for you? Did you research military legal opinions on these
cases as well to make sure you saw both sides of these shonky trials?
I am getting a distinct feeling that people are condemning military
justice purely because it isn't civilian justice and NOT because they
have any knowledge as to how effective or just it is.
Ummmm....losing Habeas Corpus? I suppose you think that scumbag Abraham
Lincoln is the 2nd worst president after Bush then eh? He suspended
Habeas Corpus during the civil war, another "illegal" war (the states
had every right to secede according to the constitution). I look
forward to your condemning the man who freed the slaves as a dictator
and a tyrant (witty considering Booth's last words).
I wasn't being patronizing, only ironic (or trying to be). There are
two sides to this issue as in all issues.
It's funny, I've been called "young Darren" and "a baby boomer". My age
is all over the place today.
-----Original Message-----
From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Alison Croggon
Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2007 6:26 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: David Hicks
Don't patronise me, young Darren. It's due process we're talking about,
known as the Rule of Law in civilised countries. What all those Barons
demanded from King John, etc. As you should know, David Hicks is
detained under weasly laws that determine him as an "enemy combatant" so
his captors don't have to observe the Geneva Conventions, which lay down
that prisoners of war (which otherwise he would technically be) have to
be treated humanely. Not to mention the shonkiness of the military
trials, which have been condemned by senior jurists all over the western
world.
Now, if David Hicks is suspected of breaking the law, he ought to be
tried properly and, if found guilty under due process, punished. I have
no problem with that and, so far as I can see, neither does anyone else.
But I do have a big problem with the star chamber set up, which is not
exactly the mark of free and democratic and just societies but rather
those evil dictatorships that we are supposed to be against.
But maybe you think that losing habeas corpus is cool, in which case you
might just as well live under Sharia Law anyway.
All best
A
On 3/27/07, meikamonagmail <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Darren must be another Baby Boomer.
>
>
>
> On 27/03/2007, at 17:00, King, Darren wrote:
>
> > I am just wondering what coloured material you would use to make the
> > outfit to cover your entire body, which would be the law if the
> > Taliban and their soldier Mr. Hicks had gotten their way. You do
> > realize that under the government Hicks fought for, you would be
> > going to jail for the email you typed don't you?
> >
> > Darren
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alison Croggon
> > Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2007 3:49 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: David Hicks
> >
> > So David Hicks has made a guilty plea (after the judge sacked most
> > of his defence counsel). Well, you can't blame the poor bastard. He
> > was going to be found guilty no matter what he said.
> >
> > Anyway, Getup! has a pretty cool video on "voting David out" - check
> > it out.
> > Maybe sign the petition.
> >
> > http://www.getup.org.au/campaign.asp?campaign_id=74
> >
> > All best
> >
> > Alison
> >
> > --
> > Editor, Masthead: http://www.masthead.net.au
> > Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com Home page:
> > http://www.alisoncroggon.com
>
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