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From: Ms B M Cook <[log in to unmask]>
> John, Can you easily tell me WHO the Lay owners were ?
as mentioned in my previous post (taken from the website), it was a question
of a Stephen "of Vitry" --most likely Vitry-sur-Sein (not far from Paris) and
a Hugo "of Monteler", a place which is not identified in the cartulary
publication of the acts involved:
Jules Marion, Le Cartulaire du Prieuré de Notre-Dame de Longpont, de l'Ordre
de Cluny, au diocèse de Paris, XIe-XIIe siècle. Lyon, 1879
which is available on http://gallica.bnf.fr
these are the only mentions of these guys in the cartulary index:
CP 312
Stephenus, miles, de Vitri, filus Rainaldi de Plesseiz, rediens de Hiersalem,
cum per mare navigaret ibique eum tant infirmitas invaderet ut nulla spes vite
in eo rameneret, Dei nutu admonitus, dedit ecclesie sancte Marie de Longo
Ponte medietatem ecclesie sancti Juliani, martyris, que Parsius apud
**Parvum** Pontem sita est....
CP 313
Hugo de Munteler dedit Deo & sancte Marie de Longo Ponte, & monachis ejusdem
loci, ecclesiam quandam apud Parisius, que constructa est in honore
**sanctorum** Juliani, martyris Brivatensis, atque Juliani, confessoris,
Cenopmannensis episcopi, cum terra quam prefati monachi jam possidebant juxta
eandem ecclesiam, retento sibi censu suo de ipsa terra, quandiu placuerit....
interesting that the church was under the vocation of two Julians (maybe to
cover all the bases, the true origin of the relics being lost in the Dark
Ages??).
it looks to me like Steve and Hugo were local fellows who were "given" the
institution by one of the late 11th c. bishops.
>Also do you know of any illustration of this candidate? Or when it was
demolished ?
what, the church itself?
it's still Alive and Kicking (though partly lost), now as a Greek Orthodox
church.
as i wrote previously:
http://www.amis-st-julien-royaucourt.org/saintjulien_fichiers/saint_julien_le_pauvre.htm
note the sexpartite vaults in the choir and the massive columns of the main
arcade of what's left of the nave (lower left pic). there are also close
parallels in the capital folliage, pier bases, imposts moldings, etc.
>IIRC there is only one mediaeval church surviving on the Left Bank
no, as John mentioned, there are several.
out of the dozens or so which must have existed at the end of the m.a.
Sts. Juliens's is the second oldest (after St. Germain), architecturally, i
believe.
c
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