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OK, I have to respond to this:
"Oats, peas, beans, and barley grow,
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> Oats, peas beans, and barley grow,
>
> Do you or I or anyone know
>
> How oats, peas, beans, and barley grow?"
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> >
> A generation ago, many children in the U.S. still knew this rhyme and
> had a point of contact with the ancient spring crop rotation, but
> in our
> contemporary media era it has fallen out of collective memory.
>
The media culture is not all bad: this song is on one of my small son's Raffi albums. We now both know the song very well, because he listens to the album incessantly. Although I have some familiarity with 3-field crop rotation, could you just remind me how the rhyme correlates with rotation. I would love to use the rhyme in class, and I want to be sure that I get it right.
Kim
Kimberly Rivers Department of History
Associate Professor University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
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From: "Howe, John" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:54 am
Subject: Re: [M-R] pulses and legumes
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> culture
> "I once read in a newspaper that legumes and pulses weren't introduced
> into European diets until the discovery of the Americas (though they
> were used in southern and eastern mediterranean). Does anyone know
> offhand of a scholarly reference for this?"
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>
>
> Actually these are much earlier. The old debate about the "three
> fieldsystem" is in part a debate about a spring rotation that includes
> legumes. Lynn White Jr.'s Medieval Technology and Social Change made
> the classic argument that the efflorescence of Europe at the start of
> the High Middle Ages resulted from the introduction of the three field
> system, making Europe "full of beans" and able to support a higher
> population thanks to the increased vegetable protein in the diet.
> Likemuch else in that stimulating book this argument is not
> sustainablewithout many qualifications and caveats (the chronology
> of the
> introduction of the three field system, insofar as it can be
> establishedat all, does not correlate neatly with the revival of
> Western Europe,
> and, in some areas, is clearly much earlier).
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>
>
> I do not have a nursery rhyme guide with me to check the age of the
> first attestation of the following, but one index of the European
> use of
> these crops is
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>
> --John Howe, Texas Tech
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