sure
these are all very VALID questions
well for one we already do public entry we have done that for years !!
there are different layers of public inputting in the future there will
be
FULL ACCESS TO ALL FIELDs
we do this now - structure is in place but cannot be rolled out to
everyone because of the present SMR
we encourage volunteers, students at our properties at their homes local
society they can put recording their survey work or monitoring these are
over seen by our regional staff or by myself. They effectively become
apart of the team but they could be working anywhere from home for
instance. This happens already.
RESTRICTED ACCESS
We do this now - structure is in place but cannot be rolled out to
everyone because of the present SMR
Only certain fields will be changed ... i.e monitoring based on your
password much of the fields are controlled entry drop down.
PUBLIC COMMENTS/ STORIES
the present cannot do this
this will be open to all a form attached to the monument or historic
property record that they record name date and their story or comment.
this can be controlled by automatic filter .. to get rid of offensive
material .. also the SMR officer will have final approval ... it will
not be live up on line data until it is approved ... this is just a text
record and attached to a monument or historic property record.
yes there may be a hit on my time but it will be manageable ... its
better than spending 3 quarters of my time wandering around the UK
looking after peoples SMR's
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Boldrini [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Public Data Entry :Was The Legendary HER
Out of curiosity (to all intending to allow the public to add to the
SMR)
How will this be managed? will records be added straight away? Or do
they need to be checked and validated before entry? are there any means
in place to ensure that the fields are entered correctly? what about
issues relating to other users for e.g. Dc purposes, will they need to
wade through a lot of (what could easily be) spurious records to assess
significance? Won't this make e.g. DBA's a nightmare?
Sorry to sound a pessimistic note but I have been dealing for a while
now with data from databases compiled as part of Community Archaeology
Projects under professional supervision, and some of the records would
probably still need editing/cleaning before I would import them into our
SMR - and these are from people who are keen, experienced avocational
archaeologists, not someone who 'saw a tunnel there when they were a
kid'.
Just curious to know some of the logistics behind this
thanks
best wishes
Nick Boldrini
SMR Computing Officer
Heritage Unit
North Yorkshire County Council
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>>> [log in to unmask] 16/04/2004 12:31:02 >>>
One thing I have been looking into is allowing schools access to a
version
of the SMR to add records to it from their area. I thought it would
come
under ICT skills as well as archaeology/history, and encourage them to
look
more openly and holistically at their area.
Quinton Carroll
Cambs SMR
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee, Edmund [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 16 April 2004 09:59
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: The Legendary HER. Was: Building Records in SMR
Hello folks,
I agree with Jasons comment...
>
Indeed it is sad in this cold technological world we do not preserve
the
legends and stories that are all about us ... it is i think something
SMR's should do ... we certainly do. But we do not see the SMR has
just
a source for cold hard facts it is made up of a wealth and rich
tapestry
of material some interpretation .. some supposed.... some physical ..
some factual and some legendary.
>
One possible problem with this sort of approach is the resources to
suport
it. The cold technological world is also short of cash for SMR
development,
and, although the Legendary HER is a great idea it is perhaps difficult
to
prioritise over and above the 'cold hard facts'.
One approach might be to develop technologies that allow for direct
entry of
data by the public into our various HERs. They could, if that was
their
interest, use theor time and resources to record the legendary
associations,
the New Age interpretations etc - or indeed the perfectly valid things
that
are for reasons of economy beyond the scope of the HER (such as the
mills
records that started this thread). These could sit alongside the
accredited
professional description of the landscape and features that make up the
HE.
At Development Control time the non-specialist material could be
filtered
and assessed separately.
Edmund Lee
English Heritage (my thoughts though, not theirs!)
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