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Subject:

Re: basic level aesthetics - language

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Terence Love <[log in to unmask]>

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Terence Love <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:59:00 +0000

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Hi Fil,

Good point. Recent child developmental literature based on neuro-biology is useful. Interesting as the basis for designing social support program systems. Much interesting stuff on the widespread nature of compromised brain develoment and repair - e.g. hugging improves brain plasticity. Cost effective in design terms. There is evidence that ROI of successful social support programs for child development is around 700%. There are several collections of recent work such as 'Committee on Integrating the Science of Early Childhood Development, Shonkoff, J. P., & Phillips, D. A. (Eds.). (2000). From Neurons to Neighbourhoods: The Science of Early Childhood Development. Washington DC: National Academy Press with the National Research Council, Institute of Medicine and the Board on Children, Youth and Medicine.'

Best regards,

Terry

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Dr. Terence Love
Dept of Design 
Curtin University
Perth, Western Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Filippo A. Salustri
Sent: 8/06/2004 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: basic level aesthetics - language


Hi all,

In reading all this cool stuff about aesthetics, cognition, etc. it
suddenly struck me that perhaps *children* might provide a part of the answer.

As a parent, I quite enjoy watching my kids (5 & 7 yrs old) learn language
and social behaviour, and the impact language (of all kinds - text, speech,
drawings, etc) has on their own thinking, and vice versa.

Has anyone considered looking at how children develop, with the aim of
drawing conclusions regarding the interactions between biology, language,
cognition, and social behaviour?

(I'm 'way out of my element here, so forgive me if I sound like a complete
prat)

Cheers.
Fil

Charles Burnette User wrote:
> On 6/7/04 6:11 AM, "M P Ranjan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>>So where does the basic level (purely biological?) end and the cultural
>>and tutored levels (semantic and semiotic culturally mediated?) begin?
>
>
> Dear Ranjan, Klaus and Cheryl
>
> Although Cheryl's search for basic level aesthetics is how "levels" became
> the reference for the conversation, and Klaus has pointed out rightly that
> it is being used as a logical linguistic distinction, Ranjan has raised a
> key question "aren't we really talking about biological beginnings" as a
> precursor to cultural and tutored mediations. That is what I was trying to
> do (with several qualifications); for me basic level means those things that
> are untutored, embodied and innate; that are common capacities resulting
> from human evolution; are preconscious and interpreted only in the sense
> that they cue particular dispositions that then take on feelings and
> situational, cultural and semantic interpretations almost immediately. They
> seem to begin in the brain stem and proceed through the limbic system to the
> neocortex and in that sense actually do involve physical levels but there is
> a great deal of what Edelman refers to as reintrant processing going on and
> consciousness arises as a property of this processing.
>
> I agree with Terry Love that we need to be thinking at the biological level
> if we are to escape some of the culturally established linguistic
> categorization that design theory has tried to build on. However, I don't
> agree with Cheryl that design theory can be constructed on the basis of
> "momentary experiences" at a "basic level" without their interpretation in
> theoretical and situational terms. Even sharing a momentary experience
> requires its interpretation and we understand one another by the
> interpretation we place on their intentions or reactions (which we usually
> model on our own). A theory is a linguistic interpretation not an experience
> in the holistic, phenomenal sense of that term (Although theories are
> capable of stimulating pleasure and pain and can be apprehended
> aesthetically).
>
> Best regards
>
> Chuck

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Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering
Ryerson University                         Tel: 416/979-5000 x7749
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Toronto, ON                                email: [log in to unmask]
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