Helen,
No problem regarding passing on comments.
John.
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From: helen kane [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 November 2004 11:30
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Housing Associations and DDA
Thanks all, good to see people interested in the subject.
Does anyone think it appropriate to pass these comments onto the DRC and see
what they have to say about it? They're really keen to clarify. The RICS
working party would also be very interested. I need consent before I can
pass info. on of course.
Any clarity for surveyors would be appreciated, particularly as some
landlords have been serving notices on tenants to undertake often unecessary
and very expensive (eg £50k for a small shop)works under the "DDA" banner.
Most have no idea of the difference between parts II and III, particularly
in retail, let alone common v communal, multi-user areas and the lack of
"public" definition.
Perhaps an article?
Helen
>From: david croft <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Housing Associations and DDA
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:57:41 -0000
>
>Hi All
>As Marcus says I.m willing to stick my oar in.
>
>The way I look at it in places like residential homes we need a two level
definition
>
>1. communal areas - areas where residents and their invited guests and
relatives have access, but are not open to members of the general public.
>
>2. Common areas- areas which are used by non-residents or non-employees of
the owners (be they a NHS, Housing Association or the residents themselves.)
>
> 2- common areas would be covered by Part !!! and where relevant Part II
>
>1. communal is more problematic. as
>if residents are paying for a the 'service' (out of their pocket, insurance
payments, NHS payments etc.) i.e. they are paying more than would be charged
for their personal rooms, surely the building operators are providing a
service and the communal areas would then be part of the 'service' provided
by the operator to residents and thus fall under Part III. while the
personal rooms would be residential and fall under Building Regulations Part
M sections 6-10.
>
>with Marcus post box comment, the way I see it -
>if they are purely for incoming mail which is sorted by the building
operator's employees Part II would apply to their employees, if residents
have to go to a specific pick up point for their box, it is a service and
should be covered by Part III. All at the cost of the operator.
>if the boxes are provided by management and a post office employee sorts
the mail into individual boxes this would be Part III again at the
operator's expense.
>if the boxes are provided by the post office this would be part II for
their employees and Part III for the residents as this is a service.
>An outgoing mail box is the post office responsibility and a Part III
service.
>
>Dave
>
>
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