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>Subject: FILM-PHILOSOPHY Digest - 14 Feb 2003 to 15 Feb 2003 (#2003-41)
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:00:00 +0000
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>Topics of the day:
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> 1. atomic bomb / experimental film / apocalyptic visions
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>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:28:26 -0500
>From: Blair Miller <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: atomic bomb / experimental film / apocalyptic visions
>
><html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV>
><P>If I may be so bold, myself and a scant few others hold the belief tha=
>t Kubrick is the 'most experimental' mainstream artist (for the Us, =
>to be sure). If you do indeed accept that, there's obviously some o=
>ther places to go with it as well.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>>From: Ali Vatansever <[log in to unmask]>
><DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Film-Philosophy Salon <[log in to unmask]
>AC.UK>
><DIV></DIV>>To: [log in to unmask]
><DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: atomic bomb / experimental film / apocalyptic=
> visions=20
><DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:47:01 -0800=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>Experimental filmmakers are mostly self-oriented, like the=
> genre in itself.=20
><DIV></DIV>>Stan Vanderbeek has some works with political content. Esp=
>ecially his anti-war film "Breathdeath", which he dedicated to Charlie Ch=
>aplin and Buster Keaton can match your topic. You can buy Stan Vanderbeek=
>'s "Visibles" (contains Breathdeath) at http://www.re-voir.com.=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>If you count German Caligarist films as experimental (as I=
> did), most of post-war (and also pre-war) German films are about post(pr=
>e)-war anxiety. Especially try to watch:=20
><DIV></DIV>>"Das Kabinett des Dr. Caligari"=20
><DIV></DIV>>"Golem"=20
><DIV></DIV>>"Berlin-Symphonie of a Great City" (pre-war Berlin's docum=
>entary)=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>if we name experimental films as avant-gardist approaches,=
> Rosselini's "Rome Open City" can also be count as an experimental film b=
>ecause of its camera usage.=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>> Ali Vatansever=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>----------------------------------------------------------=
>--------------=20
><DIV></DIV>>Quemadmodum possums scire utrum vere simus an solum sentia=
>mus nos esse?=20
><DIV></DIV>>----------------------------------------------------------=
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><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
><DIV></DIV>>--- Matthew Hodgins <[log in to unmask]>wrote:=20
><DIV></DIV>> >atomic bomb, apocalyptic visions, post-war anxiety, t=
>he end of History,=20
><DIV></DIV>> >experimental film=20
><DIV></DIV>> >=20
><DIV></DIV>> >these expressions circumscribe the topos of a paper t=
>hat i'm trying to write=20
><DIV></DIV>> >for a course in experimental film. this project has b=
>een sitting on the=20
><DIV></DIV>> >corner of my desk for several months and it's high ti=
>me to get working on=20
><DIV></DIV>> >it, but i'd like to save myself the trouble of rentin=
>g stacks of tapes in=20
><DIV></DIV>> >search of mushroom clouds. can anyone name some exper=
>imental films that=20
><DIV></DIV>> >might be interesting within the above-mentioned conte=
>xt? recommended=20
><DIV></DIV>> >readings would also be appreciated. ultimately, it wo=
>uld be nice to develop=20
><DIV></DIV>> >a thesis linking essential aspects of the genre itsel=
>f to the same=20
><DIV></DIV>> >widespread social anxieties. i mean, is it just me? d=
>oes not the image of=20
><DIV></DIV>> >the mushroom cloud seem particularly well-suited to t=
>he experimental genre?=20
><DIV></DIV>> >why is this?=20
><DIV></DIV>> >=20
><DIV></DIV>> >thanks in advance,=20
><DIV></DIV>> >=20
><DIV></DIV>> >matthew hodgins=20
><DIV></DIV>> >montr=C3=A9al, qu=C3=A9bec=20
><DIV></DIV>>=20
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