Andrew, you are quite right. It is a simulation and it gives an approach to the problem posed.
Given the backgrounds of the participants and that of the speaker, using that particular saying as an introduction would change the dynamics of the speaker's interaction with the audience. There will be a mix of "doers" and "teachers" and "teachers' teachers" present, which would allow the speaker to play the role as the management consultant. Humour can be a useful tool for defraying potential hostility in meetings where it can be anticipated, but it is a very personal style of interaction that may not suit everbody.
Regards
Dr. John Barclay
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From: A.Booth[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: mercredi 21 mars 2001 18:59
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Teaching in hostile territory
Looks like we don't have to go into the physical world to experience
a hostile environment - our virtual evidence-based-health world is
making a pretty robust attempt at creating a simulation :-)
Andrew
> There is a saying which goes:
>
> Those who can, do.
> Those who can't, teach.
> Those who can't teach, teach teachers.
>
> At first reading, your request in itself would appear to be (anedotal)
> evidence in support of the saying.
>
> However, the saying continues:
>
> Those who can't teach teachers become management consultants.
>
> Which begs the question "is advocating evidence-based medicine a form
> of management consulting?" It is certainly a NICE form of
> cost-containment.
>
> Whatever the answer, one approach would be to start by asking the
> audience by identifying their preconceptions as to what evidence-based
> medicine is, what it is about, and how they think it affects their
> everyday practice, if indeed it does have an effect.
>
> As you believe you can predict what they will say, you will know all
> the answers. If not, you can select the points that you know you can
> answer and identify potential surces for answers to the other
> questions. Or you could do the complete management consultant bit and
> ask the audience where they think they might obtain the answers ...
>
> Sincerely.
>
> Dr. John Barclay
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> From: K.Hopayian[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: mercredi 21 mars 2001 11:34
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Teaching in hostile territory
>
> I am booked to give an introductory talk to two groups of general
> practitioners in this part of England, East Anglia. The first is a
> group of GPs attending an annual refresher course, the second a group
> of trainers and their trainees (called registrars in England). Both
> groups contain individuals hostile to EBM (though none have had direct
> exposure, I suspect).
>
> My plan is to use *educational aikido* - that is, let them attack and
> I will use their own force or weight to floor them. I believe I can
> predict what they will say and so have some examples to give to
> illustrate that EBM is not the monster they believe and that it can
> help answer questions that arise in general practice.
>
> I have never done this before so I wonder if any of you have
> experience I could benefit from? -- Best wishes, Kev Hopayian GP,
> Leiston, Suffolk, UK Web site: http://www.suffolk-maag.ac.uk/kevhop
Andrew Booth BA MSc Dip Lib ALA
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