I really do wonder what is a realistic goal in such a short time. (There is the addage ' A little knowledge is a dangerous thing')
I suppose one might be able to get across the idea of sampling variation and the fact that extreme variation is improbable.
It would be interesting to know what the sudents know after a lapse of a few months if they don't develop it.
I suggest that you ask those that gave you the task what they were thinking of achieving and then what the evidence -base is for their answer .( We are all in favour of evidence -based practice these days aren't we?!)
paul
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruth Helm [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 31 January 2001 13:31
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject:
>
> Hi
> Thanks I'll look that one up. Yes I do mean three hours for one particular
> course-which says a lot about how much the research course designers think
> about stats. I have 6 six hours on other courses. Also most of the students
> are not very numerate. Most are studying for BSc'c and MSc's. I may be
> wrong but I do feel scientists need some basic understanding of the
> scientific approach and stats.
>
> Ruth
> At 07:46 31/01/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi Ruth,
> >
> >Do you really mean 3 hours? You are not going to accomplish much in that
> >time.
> >
> >In any event, the book Elementary Statistics by Mario Triola (Addison
> >Wesley) has some very
> >nice health related examples involving temperature, weight, cholesterol and
> >so on. The book itself
> >is meant for a broad audience; not just nurses. However, his problems are
> >excellent.
> >
> >Good luck.
> >
> >Rgds
> >
> >mjg ([log in to unmask] ; 203-353-8100 x277)
> >
> >=======================================================================
> >
> >Does anybody else teach statistics to nurses? Currently I am being given 3
> >hours to teach descriptive and inferencial statistics a to very unwilling
> >students and wondered if any one else had similar problems.
> >Ruth
> >
> >Ruth Helm
> >Lecturer in Informatics and Statistics.
> >The Centre for Health Practice. R&D.
> >The University of Wolverhampton.
> >Walsall Campus
> >Gorway Road.
> >Walsall WS1 3BD
> >Tel 01902 322843
> >
> Ruth Helm
> Lecturer in Informatics and Statistics.
> The Centre for Health Practice. R&D.
> The University of Wolverhampton.
> Walsall Campus
> Gorway Road.
> Walsall WS1 3BD
> Tel 01902 322843
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