See L. Ettlinger, The Sistine chapel before Michelangelo; also c. Lewine,
The Sistine chapel & the Roman liturgy.
Tom Izbicki
At 09:29 AM 11/21/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>It's hard to be enthusiastic about the conception of the theologian as art
>critic, or as a a person who directly influences art. There were no medieval
>Clement Greenbergs. You might, however, find fruitful ground studying
>theologians as patrons of the arts. Although the Renaissance is too late for
>your purposes, it would have had a different coloration without the patronage
>of Pope Julius II. But then there's the work commissioned by Suger at St.
>Denis. And if you study, say, the history of the Sistine Chapel, you'll find
>it was decorated in phases, and each phase reflects the tastes and ideas of
>the pope of that day.
>
>pat sloane
>
>In a message dated 11/20/00 5:38:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Thank you very much Jim for succinct reply. You said that "theologians in
> > western
> > Europe never interested themselves very directly or systematically with
>art
> > and
> > images, as was very much the case in the Byzantine east"; which I to
>certain
> > degree agree; however there was a special pattern of development of
> > religious art
> > in the Middle Ages. Surely some form of learned influence on the
> content of
> > Art
> > exists. I assume that the form of "popular religion" had more influence.
> > Certainly Voragine's Golden Legend played an important part, but I wonder
>if
> > there
> > are other minor works which equally had influence. I also like to think
>that
> > exegetes
> > played also important role in influencing the content of religious art. I
> > appreciate
> > any thoughts or examples.
> >
> > G Butrous
> >
> > [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > It may be a simple question !
> > >
> > > I want to compile a list of theologians who
> > > influenced the progress and the shape of the Medieval art, any help?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > Ghazwan Butrous
> > > Canterbury UK
> >
> > >>>You should certainly include Gregory the Great. There have been
> > several recent articles in the journal, Word & Image, on his writings
> > about art. St Bernard, too, should be included, and although the
> > consensus no longer makes of him a theologian, Abbot Suger might be
> > included anyway, just because of his writings that survive. Conrad
> > Rudolph has written books on both St Bernard and Suger, and in the
> > latter, he discusses, as well, Hugh of St Victor, who should also be
> > on your list. And although difficult to pinpoint exactly as the
> > author of the Libri Carolini, Theodulf of Orleans should probably be
> > there, too. To my knowledge, however, theologians in western Europe
> > never interested themselves very directly or systematically with art
> > and images, as was very much the case in the Byzantine east. That
> > probably explains the relative lack of works treating your subject,
> > although Etienne Gilson has, I believe, written on it, as, of
> > course, has Umberto Eco, and the bibliography in his Art and Beauty
> > in the Middle Ages would certainly suggest other theologians you
> > might include. There are lots of theologians, such as St Thomas
> > Aquinas, who provide lots of material for contemporary gleaners of
> > aesthetic theory but who, arguably, did not do a great deal in their
> > time to influence or shape the direction of medieval art, and I would
> > particularly point out Vincent of Beauvais in this category; whatever
> > his role in shaping art, he was made far more of than he deserved by
> > Didron, Emile Male, etc., in the 19th century.
> > Cheers,
> > Jim Bugslag>>>>
> >
> >
> >
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