Dave cheers but what are you doing up at 6-15 in the morning??
Concerned Patrick
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From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of David Bircumshaw
Sent: 15 June 2009 06:05
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Subject: Re: Laureates and more.
Thanks, Patrick. Interesting that Banksy apparently comes from the same
place as Mr Wallace and Gromit. I notice how very English it is: the love of
using animals to dress human satirically, in a between-us complicity.
2009/6/14 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFM8Gnmwdug&NR=1
>
> now this is more like political poetry!
> What's all this nonsense about expenses -give them a proper wage in the
> first place instead of a weird expenses system
> By the way there is a country to be run!
> Cheers Patrick den gammel
> Ps what's this about poetry not being able to express messages like life
> love death politics etc???(keep it naice nuffin touchy!!)what planet do
> these people live on
> PPs I have a tiny spider who seems to like my screen here a money spider
> could be lucky unless the cat eats it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Douglas Barbour
> Sent: 14 June 2009 18:59
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Laureates and more.
>
> Dave
>
> interesting comments on the politics inferred from Duffy's poem, whjile
> you admit it seems pretty much attempting to stay a-political. Yeah,
> there doesnt seem to be anything about the scandal, rather more fully
> cynical about politics as a whole (ann understandable stance on both
> sides of the pond, really, if you look at our PM & party too),
>
> But also, what more do you expect from any PL? I certainly dont expect
> much, but nthen never did from Duffy beyond some wit, & occasional
> entertainment. I certainly dont find her to be one of the poets I
> continually learn from....
>
> Doug
> On 13-Jun-09, at 1:01 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote:
>
> > H'm, Carol Ann Duffy's first poem as Laureate
> Douglas Barbour
>
> Latest book: Continuations, with Sheila E, Murphy
> (University of Alberta Press 2006)
>
> Is that the flesh made word
> or is that the flesh-made word?
>
> Fred Wah
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