You might also consult G. Alberigo, cardinalato e collegialita, although
most of its focus is on the later Middle Ages.
Tom Izbicki
At 01:56 PM 7/20/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks, I of course tried Kuttner's classic work from which I got the info
>that there were some self styled "cardinals" till the 16th century, but
>little else. I will perhaps get the answers from the Ganzer bibliog. kindly
>supplied by Claus VanEickels. I looked at the Entwicklung book which was
>generally helpful but not specific enough at least in the sections I looked
>at. I'll try the "born cardinals" materials he suggested/
>thanks,
>jw
>
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>You might want to consult Stephan Kuttner, "Cardinalis: the history of a
>canonical concept," Traditio 3 (1945): 129-214.
>Tom Izbicki
>
>At 11:36 PM 7/19/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>>I've come across a usage I've never seen and could use some advice and
>>interpretation from the learned list members. In a bull of 1097 Urban II
>>proffered the following privilege to the abbots of St. Maur sur Loire in
>>Anjou: "..apostolica auctoritate statuimus, ut in loco illo venerabili sepe
>>superius nominato cardinale abbas perpetuis temporibus habeatur."
>>The privilege was confirmed by Pope Anacletus II in 1131.
>>My reading suggests that by this time, late 11th century, that the title of
>>cardinal was restricted to the cardinal bishops, priests and deacons who
>>were so appointed as a sort of Roman senate, with a title conveying as well
>>a titular church in Rome which functioned as their "status" in the Roman
>>church.
>>My impression was that earlier on, there were some non-Roman priests and
>>bishops who held the title "cardinalis" out of some local distinction or
>>other, but that this had ceased, at least as a papal policy by the mid-11th
>>century. So what do we have here? If anyone knows about this issue, I'd
>like
>>also to know what perquisites were commonly attached to such a title as a
>>non-Roman appointment.
>>John Wickstrom
>>Kalamazoo College
>>
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