JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for ARCHIVES-NRA Archives


ARCHIVES-NRA Archives

ARCHIVES-NRA Archives


ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

ARCHIVES-NRA Home

ARCHIVES-NRA Home

ARCHIVES-NRA  September 2008

ARCHIVES-NRA September 2008

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Lets hear it for archive assistants

From:

Liz Rees <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Liz Rees <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:42:29 +0100

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (119 lines)

While I would agree that archives assistants often have excellent
qualifications and in many cases long experience in one office that may give
them greater knowledge of the collections than some archivists, in the local
authority sector at least any suggestion of salary recommendations has been
overtaken by the process of job evaluation. I believe this also operates in
HE.
In our own office the archive assistants were initially downgraded as a
result of the rather blunt instrument of the evaluation computer programme
that fails to take full account of such a varied job. However, they were
upgraded again on appeal when they were able to present evidence of the full
range of duties, responsibilities and knowledge required.

Liz Rees
Chief Archivist
Tyne & Wear Archives Service
Blandford House, Blandford Square, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 4JA
Tel (direct) 0191 277 2241; (switchboard) 0191 232 6789
Fax 0191 230 2614
E-mail [log in to unmask]
Website www.tyneandweararchives.org.uk

Become a fan of Tyne & Wear Archives Service
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Newcastle-Upon-Tyne-United-Kingdom/Tyne-Wear-A
rchives-Service/22644543768 



-----Original Message-----
From: Victoria Hoyle [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 11 September 2008 16:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Lets hear it for archive assistants


Jenny, 

Your message of support for archives assistants was very welcome! I am
always shocked by the low pay assistants can expect, despite the breadth and
responsibility of their role and the high expectations placed on their
performance. (I should mention at this point that I'm one of the lucky ones
- my salary is very generous compared to what I see elsewhere.)
Unfortunately I can't see the situation changing. As more and more arts
graduates flood the market, eager for work in a sector relevant to their
degree and willing to work for little pay, it will be tempting for archives
to keep wages low or even let them fall. At the same time employers will be
able to get more and more for their money - a wage that could once buy you a
candidate with A Levels can now get you a passionate history postgraduate
willing to take on more responsibility. 

Perhaps it would be helpful if the SoA provided graded payscale advice,
suggesting minimum wages for assistants depending on the responsibilities of
their role. This would allow for the variations between archives and,
perhaps, set a standard of pay to which repositories could aspire. 

Victoria Hoyle
Archives Assistant


The Borthwick Institute for Archives
The University of York
Heslington
York, YO10 5DD

Tel: (01904) 321166
Email: [log in to unmask]
Website: www.york.ac.uk/borthwick

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Archivists, conservators and records managers.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jenny Moran
Sent: 11 September 2008 15:06
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Lets hear it for archive assistants

Dear All,

Further to Vicky's posting yesterday, I wonder if we (as
professionals) should do more to support our para-professional staff who
often work on very low salaries and if so how we would address it? Archive
assistants in particular are often educated to degree level (I know of one
or two with postgraduate qualifications) and, over time, develop many of the
skills professional staff have. In many ways they are the backbone of
archive services - we certainly couldn't manage without them!

Some will, of course, go on to train as archivists and maybe a low salary
isn't too bad if you expect to go on to the dizzy heights of a professional
wage in due course. Many, however, will remain in low paid posts with no
progression or career development - is this inevitable? A few people have
indicated that the low salaries for unqualified posts act as a barrier to
people wishing to obtain pre- course experience and this must be especially
acute with rising levels of student debt. For the record, the Society of
Archivists does not set a minimum wage for unqualified posts and only a
minority of these posts are advertised in the professional press anyway.
Many, of course, only being advertised locally.

I'd be interested to hear views on whether we should try to address this
issue or even whether we regard it as an issue. If nothing else we could
perhaps have para-professional appreciation day.

Jenny

Jenny Moran
(posting in a personal capacity, not as SoA Secretary) 

*******************************************************
Important Information

This e-mail and its attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Gateshead Council.

If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and its attachments, you must take no action based upon them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone.

Communications by e-mail are not guaranteed to be private or secure.

Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this e-mail in error


*******************************************************

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager