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> >Josef Gulka wrote:
>
> >> In the Eastern Orthodox Church, Baptisms are
> specifically
>
> >>prohibited on the the Feast of the Theophany,
>
> >>which extends the prohibition
>
> >>to include the services of the Vigil of the Feat
> and the
>
> >>Vesperal Liturgy of St. Basil the Great celebrated
> on the
>
> >>morning of the eve of the Theophany.
>
>
> Fr. Ambrose wote:
>
> >Can you give a reference?
>
> >
>
> >Mind you, I am speaking from a Slav tradition, and
> it may be
> otherwise
>
> >with the Greeks and Arabs?
>
>
>
> >Fr Ambrose:
>
> 1.As I recall,the issue of the practice of
> performing baptisms on the
> Feast of the Theophany became an issue not only
> among the various
> Eastern Churches but between the Latin West and the
> Byzantine factions
> in the negotiatory proceedings of the Council of
> Florence. ( See: Vol.
> V, fasc. 2; Acta Graeca Concilii Florentini, Pars
> II, ed. Josephus
> Gill, ( I will provide specific citations, when I
> can access the
> vol.). Rome 1953.
>
> More extensive rationale for the prohibition
> provided in:
>
> Concilium Florentinum : Documenta et Scriptores
>
> Vol. III, fasc. III: Orientalium Documenta minora ;
> ed. Georgius
> Hoffmann, et alia. rome 1953.
>
>
> 2. Further mention of the same controversy, only
> this time between the
> Old Believers and the the Photian Conciliar faction
> in Russia, appears
> in
>
> Serge A. Zenkovsky, <underline>Russkoe
> Staroobyadchestvo: Dukhov'noe
> dvizhenia semnadtsatogo veka. </underline> Reprint:
> Forum Slavicum, Bd.
> 21 ed Dmitrij Tschizhewskij, Munchen: wilhelm Fink
> Verlag, 1970. chap.
> V., sect. 28-30.
>
>
> 3.P. N. Trempelas.commentary on the
> <underline>Megali
> Typikon</underline>, of the Great Church at
> Constantinople, Athens,
> 1935 [ Texte und Forschungen zur byzantinisch-
> neugreichischen
> Philologie, 15) ( this is the Studite Typikon )
> notes, that while
> permitting baptisms "in extremis" on the Feast of
> Theophany,( and
> therefore,in some sense this could be seen as
> support for the position
> of no days of restriction,) that the church
> customarily refrains from
> this practice out of humility for Christ.
>
>
> The state of the issue may be more that of
> voluntary self-restiction
> out of a sense of liturgical propriety than
> interdictory prohibition.
> Such "things", as has been my experience, do exist
> in
> "Ortho"-praxis.There may certainly also exist
> contemporary
> local/regional variants on this practice ( Slav/
> Greek/ Antiochan)
> ruled by local synodal proclamations. Hence your two
> venerable
> archpriests may be absolutely correct and at the
> same time sporadic
> local customary prohibitions survive.
>
>
>
>
> I hope this helps, a bit
>
> I will investigate further, and attempt to clarify.
>
> Josef Gulka
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Josef Gulka
>
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