On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 08:13:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: creed
>
> In a message dated 10-13-1999 5:28:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Perhaps so. Actually the priest Pat was quoting had misinformed her in
> > two ways, A) that belief in Christ's descent to the place of the dead
> > is not required of Catholics and B) that the doctrine is not mentioned
> > in the Bible.
> >
> > For Catholics, though, the deciding factor is not the opinion of "the
> > Church en masse". Cf. the definition of the doctrine of Papal
> > Infallibility of 1870:
>
> Bill,
>
> just for my information: which Pontiff spoke ex cathedra on the descent, and
> when?
>
> pat
>
I am planning to do some research some day on the term ex cathedra (or de
cathedra). Has anyone found it used before the 16th century? I have
seen it in Salmeron, a Jesuit at Trent; and, as I recall Sieben's
footnote, S. got it from Pigghius.
Tom Izbicki
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