Dear Teena:

I am sorry you chose to miss the illustrative point I had offered of 
joining me in envisioning a suspension if not the dissolution of what I 
will here denote as "anchor" differences. This was my attempt to 
establish or at least pursue what I had hoped would turn out to be 
valuable commonalities and constructive following moves on this list.

In addition, I was not aware that what we have before us right now on 
this list is exclusively a discussion on gendered practices in 
disciplinary discourses -- or that, if it is not precisely this, that 
someone has directed that it should be or shall be so, that everyone has 
collectively agreed to such a direction, or that we had all forgotten 
the centrality of these concerns, and therefore that we are all waiting 
for everything to be clarified.

If this is the case and I have been mistaken in my understandings of 
both the focus of and the proper processes to achieve fulfillment on the 
list, then:  my bad. For some reason, I didn't get that memo. I wasn't 
aware that such a thing was possible on this list and had assumed, 
perhaps erroneously, that the chain of exchanges to this point (taking 
into account the vast number of previous interwoven threads over the 
past 12 years of e-mails here) are for the most part very open, 
proactive, exploratory, multifaceted, and encouraging of same. Perhaps I 
have totally misunderstood the culture of the list. But somehow, I don't 
think so.

True, there are common threads among many people's interests that have 
been revealed through the space and time here (and perhaps someone will 
write or has written a great piece of software that will permit clear 
and inarguable explication of same -- this might be a useful research 
project in and of itself), but I'm not clear about how the ship of 
self-governance of this list acquired a compass, keel, a rudder and 
sails that all steer a singular course, above all others, in pursuit of 
right action regarding gendered practices in disciplinary discourse, or 
any other such singular course for that matter.

But, perhaps I am deaf, dumb and blind. Perhaps I am like Helen Keller 
prior to the crucial breakthrough, before integration, before 
enlightenment. So, if you are offering the idea that the conceptual 
blindness from which I (and perhaps others) seem to suffer, and all its 
consequences presumed to be dysfunctional and that possess, reinforce 
and convey collectively negative societal value -- that is, by way of 
illustration, that possessing the property of a colour of any kind 
(including being colourless) or perhaps even being colour/blind/ 
precludes being able to perceive or understand any colour, the meaning, 
connotation or denotation of any colour, or any property whatsoever 
having to do with any colour or of being colourless -- then clearly I 
have a very, very long way to go.

I'm intrigued by Keith's comments about translucence, and will need to 
give this notion more thought.

I also welcome the gentle commentary and suggested direction provided by 
Mauricio from Colombia. I am not sure I agree with the idea that debate 
to which he refers precludes consensus or makes it more difficult, or 
removes value from the discussion of design research or design 
education. It seems to me that eparating the wheat from the chaff in any 
exchange, let alone debate, is the lifeblood of collaborative exchange.

Thank you, Teena /et al/, for putting valuable time and energy into this 
thread. I'm now over my limit for contributions and so will bow out.

I'm looking forward to supporting and learning from the ongoing project. 
Perhaps into a following decade, yes?

Best wishes to all,

Bob Este, Ph.D / VectorRDI Ltd. / Cochrane, Alberta, Canada



On 2017-01-26 8:15 PM, Teena Clerke wrote:
> Bob,
>
> While I (think) I understand your intention ...<snip>




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