medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Yes -- I have seen the literature on Hebrews. It's a fascinating
issue, and it would be nice to have more primary source witnesses ...
Anna Graham
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> Luke-Acts would definitely be an exception for biblical literature, though,
> since the author was obviously hellenistic and had far better Greek than
> the other books (with the possible exception of Hebrews).
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:33 PM, John Dillon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>> Anna Graham wrote:
>> "I think the consensus right now about similarities between biblical
>> texts and classical literature is that apparent similarities in themes or
>> images have more to do with similar mythological/religious themes common to
>> the Hellenistic Mediterranean world..."
>>
>> That does seem to be the consensus on that score. But there are recent or
>> relatively recent books by Marianne Palmer Bonz (_The Past as Legacy:
>> Luke-Acts and Ancient Epic_ [Fortress Press, 2000]) and Dennis R. MacDonald
>> (_Luke and Vergil: Imitations of Classical Greek Literature_ [Rowman and
>> Littlefield, 2014]) that are interested not in religious themes but
>> instead in narrative similarities. With regard to Vergil, these are
>> unpersuasive in their assumptions of widespread interest in the _Aeneid_ in
>> essentially non-Latin areas of the Roman empire.
>>
>> Best again,
>> John Dillon
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>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>> culture <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Anna Kirkwood
>> Graham <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 9:19:46 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [M-R] connection between Revelation, the Aeneid and Dante?
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>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>> I think the consensus right now about similarities between biblical
>> texts and classical literature is that apparent similarities in themes
>> or images have more to do with similar mythological/religious themes
>> common to the Hellenistic Mediterranean world -- I've been wondering
>> for years what Livy might have known about biblical literature, but
>> have been unable to find any evidence one way or another. There is
>> Vergil's messianic eclogue as well, which seems to blur the lines
>> between classical and Christian. But it would be interesting if
>> anyone out there knows of any other good sources on the subject ...
>> Anna Graham
>> Romance and Classical Languages
>>
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>> > I noticed the connections between Revelation and Dante are really
>> strong,
>> > especially when you get to Paradiso, back as an undergrad. As for
>> John
>> > having read Virgil, I haven't heard any speculation on that (doesn't
>> mean
>> > someone hasn't published a paper in a religious studies journal
>> somewhere,
>> > though). It strikes me as unlikely that there was any direct
>> connection.
>> > The author (whether the Apostle John or someone from eastern
>> Anatolia/upper
>> > Mesopotamia) almost certainly didn't know Latin and doesn't appear
>> to have
>> > been overly invested in Hellenistic cultural referencing.
>> Furthermore,
>> > there was a wealth of Jewish apocalyptic literature available for
>> him.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Rosemary Hayes-Milligan and Andrew
>> > Milligan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> >> I hope you will forgive an idle query borne out of the fact that I
>> was
>> >> reading the second reading at Mass yesterday (Revelation 7:9-17)
>> >>
>> >> When I reached the bit that that begins 'who are those, robed in
>> white...'
>> >> it rang bells with the recent Radio 4 reading of Seamus Heaney's
>> >> translation of the Aeneid Book 6 (Aeneas's journey into the
>> underworld).
>> >> We know that Dante was inspired by Virgil. Was he also inspired by
>> >> Revelation and has anyone suggested that St John may have read
>> Virgil?
>> >>
>> >> Forgive me if this is something that has been much rehearsed, or is
>> >> totally silly. Does anyone have thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Rosemary
>> >>
>> >> Dr RCE Hayes
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