Thank you, Don, for clarifying TRIZ for me
What, in your opinion, is the difference between a procedure, practice,
methodology and routine?
Speaking in context of practice (and not from a formal academic
perspective), I understood methodology to be defined as a theoretical
framework, set of principles, or strategy that guides in the adoption and
development of a particular procedure and its associated methods. I would
argue that HCD, or even design thinking (DT), as a framework of principles
could be classified as a (or the?) methodology for practicing designers as
both the procedures and methods can vary under its framework.The *practice*
of HCD/DT is to gain experience in applying and embodying these unique
principles through the development of specific procedures (and methods)
guided by the principles dictated from HCD/DT. A cookbook without guiding
principles, is in my mind, simply a collection of independent recipes.
But i am more than happy to be corrected, once again. This is how we learn
Best,
-Stef
p.s: apologies for directing this conversation slightly off topic
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Don Norman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Stefanie di russo <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > correct me if i am wrong, but i thought TRIZ was a methodology, not a
> > method?
> >
>
> OK, I'll correct you.
>
> Ology means, for this purpose, "the study of"
>
> so methodology is the study of methods.
>
> People confuse the two. TRIZ is a method. This weird conversation
> is about methodology.
>
> Weird because the terms are not well defined.
>
> --------------------------
>
> Is Human-Centered Design (HCD) a method? Is a cookbook recipe a
> method? I can answer both yes and no to both questions.
>
> What's the difference between a method and a practice. A practice and
> a procedure. A procedure and a routine.
>
> We need more precision in our discussions, and it is this lack of precision
> that has caused the discussion to travel in peculiar debates and
> discussion.
>
> Although, I must admit, I have enjoyed reading them. That's good enough for
> me, although not for answering the original question.
>
> The original question is perhaps best clarified by example.
>
> Is card-sorting a method? I thought it was. Is it quantitative? No. So
> what?
>
> Is TRIZ a method. I thought it was. Is thee evidence to support it? Well,
> depends upon your definition of evidence. By the rigor demanded in
> experimental psychology, I would say no. But by other definitions of
> evidence, i would say yes.
>
> Is HCD's iterative cycle of observation-ideation-prototype-test a method?
> Hmm. It is a procedure.
>
> Is do whatever inspiration strikes you, show to the client, get
> feedback, and iterate a method? Maybe. It is rigorous, written down,
> and even effective. Is this proven by evidence. No, well, maybe yes.
> What's the evidence? The client returns with new assignments.
>
> We were asked about formal methods. What makes one system formal
> and another not formal? Writing it down? That doesn't feel right to me. I
> can say I flip a coin, or look at the moon. There I wrote it down. Are
> these therefore formal methods?
>
> Ah, the fun of these discussions.
>
> Don
>
> Don Norman
> Director, DesignLab, UC San Diego
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