Hi Carlos,
Wow what set of personal criticisms you have of me.
Ok, here is the Art and Design and graphic design side of my history so you
can at least attack me on the basis of some facts.
1964-1970 In top 3 students in Art at school and obsessed with Modernism.
1969-1970, developing and selling tools for graphic designers, industrial
designers, architects etc ( perspective sheets). Designing equipment and
clothing for outdoor sports (climbing, sailing, mountaineering).
1972- 1975 programming 'open source' early graphic design, CAD and design
optimisation software in Algol and Fortran while at university. 1972
created networked wordprocessor with basic formatting using George/MOP3 on
ICL and PDP computers.
1975-1976 some graphics projects for better teaching of mathematics concepts
in secondary schools.
1983-91 Ran a consulting and contracting business with a graphic design
sub-business. Was one of the pioneer users of graphic design software on
personal computers (since before PC and Mac were available) . Jobs included
designing and printing alternative medicine labels, document design and
printing, posters, pamphlets, developing interfaces for software, developing
interfaces in hypertext for online learning (note this was several years
before Hypercard came out on the Mac). Software used included Algol,
Fortran, PascalHypertext Editing Software, Enquire and Guide, Aldus
Pagemaker, Xerox Ventura, Corel Draw. Started developing local internet
networks and using email around 1988 on Internet proper from 1999 and on
world wide web with first website from 1994 including several studies of how
to best use the web interface.
1991-2002 Sundry document design mostly using Xerox/Corel Ventura, Corel
Draw and Paint, Adobe Type Manager and sundry supporting design and
documentation programs . Managing a research centre on information systems
design.
2003 -2014 Publishing, typesetting, document design, web design business
alongside employment in the School of Art and Design at Curtin University.
Also variously responsible as Chief Examiner and other roles for the setting
of the national Western Australian examinations in Art and Design and Visual
Arts (equivalent to English 'A' levels). Also supervised over 30 PhDs,
Masters by Research and honours research projects in Art and Design
including in areas of fashion design, interface design, graphic design, web
design, typography and I've even occasionally taught undergraduate graphic
design. Also various research projects associated with Art and Design
including a 5 year 5 country investigation of Art and Design National
Design Infrastructures. Mostly software I now use is Adobe Suite but Corel
and Ventura are still hanging in there and I use many other niche graphic
design software programs for systems diagramming and modelling. Once or
twice a year I have contract to typeset reports, particularly large reports.
Largest to date has been 450,000 words with a large number of images and
diagrams. This week, I'm involved with making diagrams and typesetting a 250
page book including new cover design, supporting the design of one new major
website, and creating new webpages and maintaining around a dozen other
websites - as well as responding to your comments!
Best wishes,
Terry
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carlos Pires
Sent: Monday, 15 September 2014 5:46 AM
To: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
research in Design
Subject: Re: Most fields of Design was The (lack of?) design quality of
academic paper formatting
On 14/09/2014, at 11:12, Terence Love wrote:
> Taking graphic design as an example:
>
> In type a) (background knowledge and skill rather than knowledge and skill
specific to design activities) we would locate colour theory, gestalt
theory, use of balance, information hierarchy, typography, theories of
emotional design, drawing and sketching skills, perspective, use of
rhetoric, web design, identity, symbols, design materials and manufacture,
human perception, culture, photography, communication, representation,
research skills, narrative, illustration and animation, game design
principles, printing, media studies, internet studies and many other topics
taught in design schools.
>
> It leaves the question about the part of design education that is
specifically about design activity, i.e. the type b) topics. 'What in design
education should be included as type b) the knowledge and expertise that is
specifically about the activity of designing?
>
> This latter is a serious question.
>
Terry,
The example you write only shows your ignorance about what graphic design
is.
It shows you see the subject from your secluded ivory tower, and although
you can see from a distance that graphic design has roads into all those
different subjects and fields, you can't fathom how those connections are
made. Well... surprise, surprise... They are made by Design!
But, apparently, in your mind, "Design" is just shorthand for "Engineering
Design", and everyone who is not an engineer is simply piggybacking that
marvelous concept that the Great Engineers of Ancient Times (see previous
episode, err... thread) so smartly came up with, bless their little genial
heads.
That's alright. People can believe what they want. I don't mind that.
What I do mind is the constant pollution of this mailing list (which is
supposed to be for discussions related to research in Design) with all this
off-topic babble.
Maybe it's time for a new mailing list.
We could call it "Engineering Design - This list is for the discussion of
how Engineering is Design and Design is Engineering and nothing else".
Cheer up. Graphic designers aren't going to storm your ivory tower anytime
soon.
And even if they did, they would accomplish nothing: their puny little minds
can't come up with anything useful. I mean, they're only graphic designers
because they failed at algebra, right?
Cheers,
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