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Many thanks for this Graham and excuse the tardy reply.
The full volume is available online through the ADS, it just takes a
bit of manoeuvring through the site to get there.
Dave
On 8 Jun 2014, at 19:34, Graham Jones wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>
> Dave, Point your browser at
>
> http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/archiveDownload?
> t=arch-1164-1/dissemination/pdf/MSRG_Vol_25/045-051_Harrison_et_al.pdf
>
> Peter McTeague has put this paper on Academia.
>
> The same issue has a research paper by David Harrison: 'Medieval
> bridges: past and future. The current state of knowledge
> and proposals for future research', on pp. 32-39. I'm not aware of
> this being available electronically.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Graham
>
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> religious culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of
> David Standing [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 08 June 2014 16:01
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
>
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> culture
>
> Maddy, have you got a copy of this journal?
>
> Dave
>
> (not sure if I should have asked through this medium!)
>
>
> On 8 Jun 2014, at 15:22, Graham Jones wrote:
>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
>>
>> The map of 115 bridge chapels identified by David Harrison, Peter
>> McKeague, and Bruce Watson, 'England's fortified medieval bridges
>> and bridge chapels: A new survey', Medieval Settlement Research 25
>> (2010), pp. 45-72, shows how well distributed they are (though with
>> very few examples south of the Thames). Pilgrimage will have been
>> one impetus for travel, but not, perhaps, the principal one.
>>
>> A quick look at around 50 bridge chapels south of the Humber (in my
>> own notes) discloses only one more case of Nicholas. Indeed, the
>> only discernable pattern is an interest in Thomas Becket in parts
>> of the pre-Reformation Lincoln diocese.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval
>> religious culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of
>> Anne Willis [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 08 June 2014 11:51
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
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>>
>> Bradford is said to have been on a pilgrimage route to Glastonbury.
>>
>> [It probably still is. Going to Glastonbury for the festival is a
>> rite of
>> passage for the youth of the town]
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>> culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Madeleine
>> Gray
>> Sent: 08 June 2014 08:49
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
>>
>> Plenty of bequests for road maintenance before the Reformation as
>> well. Some
>> can be tied into pilgrimage routes but most can't.
>>
>> Maddy
>>
>> Dr Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA
>> Reader in Church History/ Darllenydd mewn Hanes yr Eglwys School of
>> Humanities and Social Sciences /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Gwyddoniaethau
>> Cymdeithasol University of South Wales/Prifysgol De Cymru Caerleon
>> Campus/Campws Caerllion, Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)
>> 1633.432675
>> http://www.southwales.ac.uk http://twitter.com/penrhyspilgrim
>> http://twitter.com/HeritageUSW http://twitter.com/USWHistory
>>
>> '[S]he that is down need fear no fall
>> [S]he that is low no pride'
>> ________________________________________
>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
>> culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Graham Jones
>> [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 10:32 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
>>
>> John's cautionary words are well made. Having now read through W.
>> H. R.
>> Jones' history, it seems that he associated the structure with a
>> chantry of
>> St Nicholas in the parish church - but I didn't notice how he made
>> the
>> connection. Maybe I missed it. Like other parishes throughout
>> England,
>> Bradford on Avon had late medieval devotions both to Nicholas and
>> his female
>> counterpart Catherine.
>>
>> A quick look at the Wiki article on 'Village lock-ups' strengthens
>> the
>> feeling that what is seen today at Bradford is indeed a lock-up of
>> the
>> seventeenth or eighteenth century. And yet... I've seen no others
>> incorporated into a bridge. Trowbridge's, offered locally as the
>> alter ego
>> of Bradford's, is in fact on 'dry land' at one end of the town
>> bridge. Most
>> lock-ups, though secure, look pretty low-key. Early modern
>> lawmakers were
>> not known for over-spending on prisons, least of all the overnight
>> variety.
>> It's hard to imagine Bradford or the county of Wiltshire - the two
>> were in
>> contention in the seventeenth century over who should repair the
>> town's
>> bridge - going to the trouble and expense of building a lock-up on a
>> specially constructed extension of one of the bridge piers. What
>> would be
>> the point?
>>
>> They might well, however, have commandeered, and rebuilt as
>> necessary, an
>> existing structure. If I were a betting man, I'd go along with John
>> Aubrey's
>> report of a chapel.
>>
>> Though a matter of immediately local interest, Anne's query has
>> nevertheless
>> drawn attention to several wider themes. One is papal indulgences
>> for 'good
>> works' which including the building of bridges and roads. The pope
>> called
>> for donations towards the repair of Bradford bridge in 1400. I
>> used to
>> wonder why bequests immediately after the Reformation so often
>> benefitted
>> road repairs when previously they had been made to altars and
>> chantries and
>> the like, but of course this was one of the many areas in which the
>> medieval
>> church did essential social service. Perhaps the endowment of a
>> priest to
>> serve at Bradford's chantry of St Nicholas not long afterwards in
>> 1420 led
>> Jones to make the link between saint and bridge.
>>
>> Incidentally, the VCH article John mentions also details a rare late
>> survival of church-scot, an English variety of local ecclesiastical
>> taxation. Worth a look for those who may be interested.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of John Dillon
>> [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 07 June 2014 18:41
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>> Subject: Re: [M-R] St Nicholas
>>
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
>>
>> The wording of Anne's original query suggests greater caution on
>> her part
>> regarding the structure's original dedication than is evident in
>> the page
>> from the St Nicholas Center in Bari cited by Jane below. Such
>> caution seems
>> perfectly appropriate.
>>
>> The nineteenth-century historian of Bradford on Avon, W. H. Rich
>> Jones, is
>> reported here <http://www.freshford.com/bridge_bradford.htm> as
>> saying,
>> "Concerning the dedication of the Bridge Chapel we have no authentic
>> information at present." Jones' early twentieth-century successor
>> as a local
>> historian, John Beddoe, has nothing to add on that particular score
>> (the
>> discussion of the chapel linked to just above is taken from his
>> annotated
>> edition of Jones' _Bradford-on-Avon: A History and Description
>> [Bradford on
>> Avon: Wm. Dotesio, the Library Press, 1907] and the matter in
>> brackets is
>> his).
>>
>> The English Heritage data sheet on the Town Bridge and Chapel is
>> likewise
>> silent about any dedication
>> <http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?
>> uid=1036011>. The
>> discussion in vol. 7 of the Victoria county history of Wiltshire
>> observes,
>> in the paragraph beginning "Bradford's name", that apart from a
>> statement by
>> the seventeenth-century antiquary John Aubrey there is "no evidence
>> that the
>> building was ever used for religious purposes"
>> <http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=115456>
>>
>> Similarly suspect the St Nicholas Center's assertion that "The
>> gudgeon
>> (fish) on the weather vane is a Christian symbol dating from the
>> time of the
>> chapel" (<https://www.stnicholascenter.org/galleries/gazetteer/4219/
>>> ),
>> whatever "the time of the chapel" may mean (here probably medieval
>> but on
>> another page the St Nicholas Center seems to think that the
>> building is
>> still a chapel and a Roman Catholic one at that; see
>> <https://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/gazetteer/?
>> category_id=16&p=4&n=29>)
>> . Beddoe, seemingly followed by English Heritage, thought the vane
>> to be
>> sixteenth-century work. The VCH is rather less positive: "The
>> antiquity of
>> the weather-vane is uncertain. It existed in 1858 but is not shown
>> in an
>> engraving that was probably made about 1800."
>>
>> Best,
>> John Dillon
>>
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