Dear Keith and Jude,
Excuse me for jumping in here but my ears pricked up when painting was mentioned. Keith, if I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that these examples are appropriate to a definition of 'imagination' but not to a definition of 'design'?
Simon's analogy certainly rings true with me as a painter and illustrator. One of my favourite painters, the neo-romantic, John Minton (albeit deeply flawed and a better illustrator than painter) described the process of constructing/ designing a painting as " ... a matter of the successful steering of accident" (in Looking at Paintings by Michael Rothenstein, Routledge, 1958). Of course all painters are different but the fact that your toddler son seems to adopt this approach, Jude, is a good indication of its integrity.
I am also wondering whether either of you paint?
Best regards
Martin
Professor Martin Salisbury
Course Leader, MA Children's Book Illustration
Director, The Centre for Children's Book Studies
Cambridge School of Art
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Dear Jude,
I don't have any problem including all that you talk about as part of
imagination.
Cheers
keith
On 3/09/13 12:55 PM, "CHUA Soo Meng Jude (PLS)" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Dear Keith, I think you are probably right. Although this seems be the
>way my son paints - he is a toddler. But consider this other example:
>Kandinsky comes home and discovers a beautiful painting, only to realize
>that it was his own painting of a symphony put on its side - then the
>realization that art is not merely about imitation, but also the
>splashing of vivid colors. And thus was born the father of modern art.
>Not sure if this is accurate, whether I got my art history right, but
>even if hypothetical, makes the point, not that design needs imagination
>(it does of course!), but that design can in fact be unplanned, and
>sometimes good design (ok, again contested ground here) is the
>attentiveness to side effects and unintended because unforeseen
>consequences (here again bounded rationality, a recurrent theme) suggest
>new good goals. Perhaps this is really stretching the word "design".
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