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Andrew
On 21 May 2013 18:52, Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> thanks for comments, interesting. I suspect we need to get the idea of
> books being a complex assemblage out there more so we can get away from the
> idea that books are only about the author. This may be part of the problem
> Salt ran into, although I am sort of guessing.
>
>
>
> On 21/05/13 18:14, Nathan Hondros wrote:
>
>> Slightly off topic, but still related to Chris's comments on books as
>> technology: books are actually a much better technology than kindles
>> or iPads or other electronic readers, if you think about the purpose
>> of the book, which includes the idea that each publication is a work
>> of art. I have this notion that electronic devices won't succeed as
>> technology when it comes to reading for pleasure or as an experience
>> of art for this reason. It's because books "deliver the content" much
>> better than any kind of screen, to use the language of technologists.
>>
>> Chris, I share your "book as art" idea, obscure or not, and can't
>> imagine anyone publishing a book of poetry without fancying the whole
>> package as a work of art in itself. Why else would you do it? To
>> deliver the words, I guess that would be one answer. Or to make a
>> fortune?!
>>
>> On 21/05/2013, at 3:48 PM, Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> On 21/05/13 17:13, Andrew Burke wrote:
>>>
>>>> But isn't it a good track record! I was in the very early days when it
>>>> was
>>>> Folio/SALT and published from Western Australia.
>>>>
>>> Yeah, I feel sad that Salt has to stop for now.
>>>
>>> I would very much like to get to the understanding that a book of poetry
>>> by a single poet is itself a work of art. And this requires a collaboration
>>> from many different artists, thinkers, whatever.
>>>
>>> In thinking through how I write Barbecue a lot of thought goes into how
>>> it will work as a small book and this includes typography and book design,
>>> which I hope to leave open to designers. (I do some quick mocks to see how
>>> it may look on a printed page and as a bound book and my first book was
>>> presented in ReadySetGo format to give some ideas to the designer.)
>>>
>>> I would like very much to hit on the head and do away with the idea that
>>> thinking through what I am writing as a book is being sentimental for a
>>> gone by era. I do not in any way think that books are an old technology and
>>> that poets need to think of other ways of writing other then the 50 to 70
>>> page book, as I have seen argued elsewhere and rather short sighted and
>>> lacking in imagination. Sure there are other ways, but this is not the end
>>> of the book. It is the way that books are thought of (or not thought of)
>>> that is the problem.
>>>
>>> I guess what I would really like to see is a discussion about books as
>>> an art media and the fact that we do not live in the era of the end of the
>>> book (contra crude misreading of Derrida.)
>>>
>>> Am I making sense here... I worked in publishing as a book designer and
>>> director, after leaving art school, so maybe my background in the ideas
>>> that books are works of art is a little obscure?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be nice if we can talk about books as art.
>>>
>>> --
>>> BLOG http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.**com.au/<http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com.au/>
>>>
>>
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Andrew
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