Hi Gunnar,
As always you are perceptive and sharp.
As you know, there is much subtlety and many layers involved in
understanding and talking about these issues. You raise another six layers,
each with its own set of questions, including:
1. Whether my conscious 'self' 'perceives' objects that I look at as 'real'.
2, What do we know about the physiology and ontology of how the conscious
'self' perceives objects through vision?
3. How does an individual's body independently of the conscious 'self'
perceive objects through vision?
4. How does the conscious 'self' distinguish between 'real' and 'not real'?
5. How does an individual's body independently of the conscious 'self'
distinguish between 'real' and 'not real'?
6. How do we define, in robust theory, the difference between 'real' and
'not real' in visual terms?
These are questions of theory that are foundational to graphic diesign and
all other design fields that operate through the visual dimension.
We have partial answers to some of them. Others, and others not included
above, still require work.
I suggest it is only when we have addressed the above and similar issues in
Design that the field of Design and the associated areas of design research
will move on from naive teenage-hood into a mature adult discipline.
Warm regards,
Terry
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From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related
research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gunnar
Swanson
Sent: 14 March 2013 04:35
To: Dr Terence Love
Subject: Re: The self issue
On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:41 AM, Terence Love <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> In many ways, ontologically, this is similar to seeing objects in a
mirror. The objects 'as seen in the mirror' are best seen ontologically as
abstractions of a pseudo-reality rather than real objects. One doesn't
usually think of images of objects in a mirror as being real things behind
the mirror glass. Or do you? Usually they are seen as a pseudo-reality.
Terry,
re: this subject and mirrors, I assume you've been looking here--
http://www.self.com/vampires
SLightly more seriously: Do you really think the images you see when you
stare directly at something are "real objects"?
Gunnar
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