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Re: FW: Beyond 2011 Programme: new publications for February 2013

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John Urquhart <[log in to unmask]>

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John Urquhart <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:38:10 +0000

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From an epidemiological point of view, a small area statistic can be
key in determining the impact of environmental insults on a
population.  For example, I discovered a linear leukaemia cluster some
years ago, associated with the presence of microwave towers.  Without
knowing the population profile in that area, from small area
statistics, it would have been very difficult to calculate the
abnormal rate of childhood leukaemia.  Knowledge of what is happening
in small areas can be the key to identifying specific local causes,
particularly when distance from a point source is being examined.

John Urquhart

On 25 February 2013 16:36, Professor David Gordon
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear All
>
> You may also want to respond to David Martin's e-mail below and send him
> some details of any research you have done which used small area statistics
> e.g. population data for wards, output areas, etc.
>
> The current proposal is to end all Census statistical data at small area
> level (see e-mail below).
>
> Regards
>
> David Gordon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Superlist for ESRC Census Programme network
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Martin D.J. Sent: 02
> February 2013 18:22
> To: [log in to unmask]



> Subject: Please act *now* if you want to save small area population data!!
>
> Dear colleagues
>
> Understandably, only a few of us can invest much time in following the
> plans for future censuses and you may therefore be unaware of recent
> developments.  If you are a user of small area census data, please read on
> and act if you can - there is a real risk of losing the small area census
> data that you currently take for granted.
>
> ONS are currently undertaking research on potential replacements for the
> conventional census in 2021. Although that seems a very long way off,
> recommendations need to go before parliament next year and the preparatory
> work is already well advanced. Based on the series of roadshows run by ONS
> last autumn, they have not received convincing high-value use cases for
> small area population attributes.  Arguments such as "they are used to
> target local services" are not sufficiently robust to stand up to the
> inevitable financial scrutiny.  A leading option is to derive basic age/sex
> data from linked administrative records and to use social survey data to
> obtain the types of population attributes that would previously have been
> obtained from the census - (ethnicity, LLTI, tenure, car ownership,
> employment, etc.) This would clearly not deliver small area data of the
> current quality, if at all.
>
> We are urgently appealing to the research community to have your say: if no
> case is made, it seems entirely likely that ONS will not be able to include
> generation of costly small area data as part of the recommended option.  If
> you can demonstrate high-value research (and ideally high-valued impacts!)
> based on small area 2001 census data, please mail us - we need to marshall
> further evidence by the end of February.
>
> Ideally, we are seeking identifiable research with an estimate of value and
> impact and/or an indication of why it could not be done without high
> quality small area data.  If you can supply a paper or URL where further
> details could be pursued, better still.  NB This is about England and
> Wales, although Scotland and Northern Ireland will be reviewing the same
> issues in due course.
>
> If you want to find out more about Beyond 2011, see
> http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyond
> -2011/index.html  Although there is not a formal consultation currently
> open, you can also mail them at [log in to unmask]
>
> With many thanks,
> David Martin, University of Southampton Email:  [log in to unmask] Paul
> Norman, University of Leeds Email:  [log in to unmask]
> _______________________________________________________________
>
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>
>
> ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
>
>
>
> --On 25 February 2013 14:45 +0000 "Macfarlane, Alison"
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> For those who were at Saturday's Radstats conference and those who
>> weren't and regretted missing Danny Dorling's talk on the abolition of
>> the census, here is an email I have just received. Doubtless many others
>> on this list will have recived it as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 25 February 2013 11:35
>> To: Macfarlane, Alison
>> Subject: Beyond 2011 Programme: new publications for February 2013
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear User
>>
>> I am contacting you as you have previously expressed an interest in the
>> work of the Beyond 2011 Programme in ONS. I am pleased to inform you of
>> the release of a series of papers by the Programme on the research work
>> undertaken over the past 6 months. These will explain much more about the
>> approach we are taking to evaluate the options and what the next steps
>> are. Further papers will be released in May and July 2013.
>>
>> You can find these new papers here
>> http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyo
>> nd-2011/news/reports-and-publications/index.html
>>
>> If you have anything relating to Beyond 2011 that you would like to
>> discuss, please contact us at  [log in to unmask]
>>
>>  We will be providing regular updates on progress and plans via our
>> newsletter, which will be produced at regular intervals throughout the
>> duration of the Programme, via our contacts list and online – check
>> here for up-to-date news:
>> http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/what-we-do/programmes---projects/beyo
>> nd-2011/news/index.html
>>
>>
>> If you would prefer not to receive any further emails from us please
>> reply to this email letting us know, so that you can be removed from our
>> contacts list.
>>
>> Thank you for your interest.
>>
>> Beyond 2011
>> Office for National Statistics
>>
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>
>
>
>
> ----------------------
> Dave Gordon
> Townsend Centre for International Poverty Research
> University of Bristol
> 10 Woodland Road
> Bristol BS8 1TZ, UK
>
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