medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
I should have remembered those, Jim-- thanks! Though as you say, the
form is different.
Genevra
On 5/6/2012 11:52 AM, Dr Jim Bugslag wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> Genevra,
> It would make sense that the Vexillum of St Peter came into prominence
> during the Investiture Controversy, but there were a couple of mosaics
> put up by Pope Leo III, flanking the triclinium in the Lateran Palace
> -- there are replacements there now -- which showed Christ handing a
> vexillum to Constantine on one side, and St Peter handing a vexillum
> to Charlemagne on the other. Presumably, these reflect some sort of
> presence of a vexillum of St Peter by the late 8th century. Come to
> think of it, however, these were the "western" type of vexilla, a
> pennon with tails, rather than the rectangular "Byzantine" type of
> vexillum, as on your ivory.
> Jim
>
> On 05/05/2012 8:34 PM, Genevra Kornbluth wrote:
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>> culture
>>
>> Wikipedia (source of all things reliable) says that the vexillum
>> started as a papal thing during the Investiture Controversy, long
>> after the ivories were made. Is this right? And of course the item is
>> held on the Paul side of the ivories, not the Peter side.
>> Also, it appears to me that the Paul/Andrew figure is likewise
>> holding something rectangular, just a bit lower down than
>> Peter/Philip. Of course, between a distinctly non-naturalistic style
>> and a fair bit of surface wear, it's really anyone's guess.
>>
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