medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
On producing "publlshed" works from notes taken, recall Aristotle's
"Nichomacean [and other's] Ethics" for an early example of a listener's
notes becoming the text (whether Nicomachos was acting as an official
transcriber is another matter of which I know nothing). And apparently
Origen used (official?) recorders to produce some of his works -- see
the recent review of his Homilies on Genesis, for example. There seems
to have been a long tradition of this sort, not to mention the practice
of transcribing court proceedings as well. Surely there must be a vast
modern bibliography on these matters, although that might not help CC in
his quest(s).
Bob Kraft, UPenn
Christopher Crockett wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> i "accidentally" came across a non-academic discussion of "Information
> Hoarders"
>
> http://www.salon.com/2012/04/25/information_hoarders_salpart/?source=newsletter
>
> which happened to contain this interesting Factoid:
>
> "Taking notes during sermons started in the Middle Ages. The work of a great
> sermonist like Bernard of Clairvaux survived because he would plant a
> secretary in the audience to take notes while he preached. Bernard would
> finalize his sermon based on these notes and release it for 'publication' by
> copying."
>
> does anyone know where i might find a serious discussion of Bernie's methods
> for putting together the final, "published" versions of his sermons?
>
> i suppose that the subject might be discussed somewhere in Jean Leclercq's
> "Recueil d’études sur Saint Bernard et ses ecrits" (Rome: Edizioni di
> Storia e letterature, 1962)?
>
> or not?
>
> or where?
>
> specifically, the historian of the 2nd Crusade, Odo of Deuil, says that Bernie
> preached a sermon on the third day of the great council which Louis VII
> assembled in February of 1147 at Etampes, at which Suger was designated to be
> Regent during the king's absence in the East. (Odo also tells us that the
> council began on "Circumdederunt Me Sunday.")
>
> i am trying --with no success, as yet-- to identify what the subject of that
> sermon might have been.
>
> i can't seem to find a pre-lent sermon which fits in with the Mare's Nest i am
> trying to construct, so i'm reluctantly coming around to the opinion that this
> particular sermon was never "published."
>
> being severely Sermoniacally Challenged, any thoughts on how i might go about
> solving this little Conundrum would be greatly appreciated.
>
> c
>
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