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From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
> On 03/08/12, Christopher Crockett wrote:
>> From: Madeleine Gray <[log in to unmask]>
>>> I'm more familiar with arrangements in parish churches - would the private
chapel in a castle in the early C14 have a screen?
>> surely would depend (at least in part) on the size of the "castle,"
wouldn't it? --and the number of riff and raff that one wished to keep out of
the place.
>It also depends on what one means by "private" here.
to say nothing about the meaning of "castle"
>The principal royal residence in later medieval Naples was the Castel nuovo,
well, Building being the Sport of Kings, royal residences were, for the most
part, rather sumptuous affairs --Showing the Flag and all that.
when i first read Maddy's post i (of course) immediately flashed on the 12th
c. royal "castles" i know best --which, while no doubt very impressive in
their own time, were, relative to what they became a few centuries later, very
modest structures indeed.
a case in point is Louis VI's substantial tower at Etampes,
http://www.ariadne.org/cc/etampes/guinette/testguinette.html
which surely made the kind of Splash which it was intended to do in the
1130s.
but that was nothing compared to what it morphed into with the proper amount
of Ca$h behind the project
www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/f8v.html
these kinds of piles,
http://tinyurl.com/79trfbg
while not literally "Royal," were certainly Close Enough to that standard for
Government Work.
and differed only in degree from the situation you describe at Naples
>It [the principal royal residence] functioned as a space for masses attended
by the royals and by other higher-status residents of the castle (e.g.,
distinguished guests and senior permanent party such as the castellan and his
family). Because it housed precious items it is very likely to have been
both kept under guard and closed when not in use.
by the 14th-15th cc., the modest "castrum"s of the lesser nobility, which had
their origins in the 11th and early 12th cc. would certainly have grown up
quite a bit, but i should suspect that only the Industrial Strength ones
--like those of the Duck of Berry-- would have had need of "screens" to keep
out the hoi and the poloi.
that's what i meant by "size" --which, at least in this case, would have
mattered.
c
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