medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
A rosary is always in wills "a pair of beads". "Pair" means 'set' - as
in "a pair of trousers".
John Briggs
On 11/08/2010 18:09, Marjorie Greene wrote:
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> A 1611 dictionary lists this:
> Phaseolus vulgaris - navy, Boston, pinto, string, snapbean (USA), haricot, kidney, and when unripe, French, wax bean (UK), flageolet (yellow variety).
> I suspect your "ffrenche beanes" are the dried former innards of the long green strips you associate with French-cut string-beans.
> More puzzling to me is the "payre of beades." Does this mean two of something? The reason I ask is that beads of any sort, thrown from carnival floats in New Orleans, have long been (erroneously, or so the intelligentsia thought) called "pairs of beads" as in "I caught a pair of beads." BTW these are necklaces, not rosaries!
> MG
> Marjorie Greene
> http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/
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> --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Chris Laning<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> From: Chris Laning<[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [M-R] Beades, bedys and "ffrenche beanes"
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 3:47 PM
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> Some recent correspondence prompts me to mention yet again (as I do periodically) that if anyone is working on wills, inventories or similar lists of "things" and runs across any mentions of beads (however spelled) from before about 1700, I would be very grateful for any information you would be willing to share. Ditto for paintings and other visual media.
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> As some may recall, paternoster and rosary beads are something I'm very interested in and have been researching for several years now (my blog and website addresses are in the signature line). I'm an independent and far from full-time scholar, and don't always have the time, or the access to documents, to find all these things for myself.
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> And if anyone has a clue what "Item a payre of beades Callyd ffrenche beanes with x gawdyes of golde" (from the Lisle Letters) might refer to, I'd be grateful for enlightenment. The ten gauds of gold I get, but my mental image of "ffrenche beanes" is green stringbeans cut diagonally, which is certainly not what's intended here ;)
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> Thank you!
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