Hello everyone. Not being a member of CIEH, does anyone have a link to this so that I may read what it says? I couldn?t find any mention of it on the parts of the CIEH website to which there is general access.



All help appreciated.



PS I have had an excellent response to my enquiry about allotments, and I'll post a summary in the next day or so. Thanks to everyone who contributed.



Anthony 



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-----Original Message-----

From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Russell Corbyn

Sent: 26 May 2010 13:02

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Subject: Re: CIEH Skills Framework Consultation



Dave



Surely cuts will mean everyone gets paid less and more people will move into industry therefore reducing the knowledge and ability in the public sector?



Don't want to be a wet blanket but I don't see more pointless bureaucracy and paperwork as providing the means to increase that. If you need a checklist to see if you can do your job or not then perhaps you shouldn't be doing that job - if you see what I mean (not you personally....). I'd be worried if a surgeon has a checklist of what he is good at for example....



maybe?



:)



And as for the appointment of the ministers:



Sir Desmond: "So it all boils down to the Industry Co-partnership Committee. Still, I find that quite acceptable."

Sir Humphrey: "Well, it is within the gift of my Minister, and you would only put in appearances once or twice a month."

Sir Desmond: "Are there lots of papers?"

Sir Humphrey: "Yes, but it wouldn't be awfully necessary to read them."

Sir Desmond: "Then I wouldn't have anything to say at the monthly meetings."

Sir Humphrey: "Splendid, I can see you're just the chap I'm looking for."





-----Original Message-----

From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fountain

Sent: 26 May 2010 12:18

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Subject: Re: CIEH Skills Framework Consultation



Surely the idea of the framework is to make sure less experienced staff get brought up to a competent level in the most expedient, measurable and efficient way possible?

You may consider it not useful for yourself, but I'm sure there plenty who will.  



Plus it raises the profile of the level of expertise and competence required by CLOs...  which one would hope would work favourably towards the imbalance you point out.



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-----Original Message-----

From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Murray, Ray

Sent: 26 May 2010 11:50

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Subject: Re: CIEH Skills Framework Consultation



 I have been doing a more than competent job in this field for over 10

years.  I don't need the professionally insecure CIEH to outline what

competencies I require thank you very much.  I wonder if there is any

mention of the fact that EHO's (mostly qualified to Diploma in

Environmental Health level) are often paid more than CLO's who are more

experienced and qualified to masters level and beyond?  I think not.

Ray 



-----Original Message-----

From: Contaminated Land Officers

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Liz

Hamer

Sent: 26 May 2010 10:17

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Subject: CIEH Skills Framework Consultation



Not sure why we have not been consulted directly however, here is the

consultation on the skills required to carry out our duties as CLO's

which ends on the 31st July. 



I understand that this was posted on the LACORS web site but it has now

been removed ....not sure why. 



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