Yes, exactly, and that 'a lot later on' is quite a while ago now.
Tim A.
On 28 Aug 2009, at 01:33, Mark Weiss wrote:
> A lot later on, though, in Spicer, Blaser, etc.
>
> At 08:08 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>> David,
>> Neither can I see much of Rimbaud's influence in US modernism -
>> except some in Hart Crane, described, not that helpfully, by
>> Malcolm Cowley as "a poet with the lyric sensibility of Baudelaire
>> who thought he could write like Whitman".
>> Best,
>> Jamie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>David Latane
>> To: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: "Has British Poetry had any significance since
>> Wordsworth?"
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tim Allen <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Not sure whose or which post you are replying to David, but I have
>> to say that your comment below could be very misleading -it depends
>> on what you mean by 'modernism'.
>>
>> On 27 Aug 2009, at 16:53, David Latane wrote:
>>
>> > As for your sensory train wrecks--I can't say Rimbaud has much
>> to do with American modernism.
>>
>> Fair enough--I was keeping within the framework of "High Modernism"
>> American branch (that is pre-WW II, Yanks Abroad).
>>
>> Jeffrey has done something difficult it seems--forced himself to
>> write a dissertation about a poet he doesn't like.
>>
>> I am suspicious of genealogy, but agree with him that Wordsworth's
>> theory and practice is centrally behind much subsequent poetry in
>> English. But just as in family trees at this distance poets are
>> interrelated vis-a-vis Wordsworth even if their practices and
>> personalities clash.
>>
>> The part of Wordsworth which Jeffrey (and Keats and Pound and. . .)
>> object to--the expository--strikes me as the least influential,
>> merely in terms of style. Truthfully I'd love to read a modern poem
>> that laid out at some length ideas/feelings with the musical force
>> of the conclusion to the Prelude.
>>
>> The quality of criticism Wordsworth has attracted -- from Hartmann
>> on -- says a lot about his relevance.
>>
>> If I were going to prospect for a font of bad poetry in our time,
>> however, among the Romantics (broad definition) -- I'd choose
>> Keats, then Rimbaud and Rilke.
>>
>> David Latane
>> http://www.standmagazine.org (Stand Magazine, Leeds)
>>
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