Ah, I see. Yea, fair enough... I get his drift, baby.
Tim
On 31 Aug 2009, at 11:49, Alison Croggon wrote:
> Tim , it's the quote in the second par - xA
>
> From Alison's iPhone
>
> On 31/08/2009, at 8:09 PM, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Alison, you'll have to tell me what Spicer said.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 31 Aug 2009, at 11:05, Alison Croggon wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim - I guess it depends what you mean by "influence". I was
>>> assuming that influence referred to the writing of poetry - I'd
>>> think
>>> that poems matter a whole lot more in that activity than what is
>>> said
>>> about them. Although of course others may work differently. I tend
>>> to
>>> agree with Jack Spicer on the question of theory and practice:
>>>
>>> Muses do exist, but now I know that they are not afraid to dirty
>>> their
>>> hands with explication - that they are patient with truth and
>>> commentary as long as it doesn't get into the poem, that they
>>> whisper
>>> (if you really let yourself hear them), "Talk all you want, baby,
>>> but
>>> _then_ let's go to bed." (from Admonitions)
>>>
>>> xA
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Tim Allen<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Not so sure about that Alison. I think that at times critical
>>>> thought about
>>>> poems is far more influential than the poems themselves. Time and
>>>> time again
>>>> it is not the poems themselves that cause aesthetic and ideological
>>>> disagreements but what is said about them by critics, which sets
>>>> up agendas.
>>>>
>>>> tim A.
>>>>
>>>> On 31 Aug 2009, at 01:13, Alison Croggon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But hey. I just wanted to say that critical thought about poetry
>>>>> is of
>>>>> course influential, but in the end it's not nearly as
>>>>> influential as
>>>>> poems.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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