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Re: NPG / Wikimedia

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Susan Buhr <[log in to unmask]>

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Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:15:18 +0100

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Does that mean the copyright is owned by the world's public, or just UK 
nationals?  The NPG is a national museum of the UK, so by this logic the 
citizens of the UK own the copyright.  But in this NPG case it's a US 
citizen potentially/allegedly infringing copyright (and to the best of my 
admittedly limited knowledge of UK copyright law, this is in fact what has 
happened, whether that's just or not)- should the US government pay tax 
money to UK museums so the copyright can belong to its own public as well?

For what it's worth, I think the NPG charge waaaaay too much for their 
copyright licencing, but I also believe and respect that they are within 
their rights to manage their copyrights as they see fit within a legal 
framework, and that is what they do.


Susan Buhr
Curatorial Assistant- Hampstead Museum at Burgh House
Project Leader- Burgh House Oral History Project, supported by the Heritage 
Lottery Fund
phone: 02074310144
www.20thcenturylondon.org.uk
Please note my usual working days are Tuesday through Friday only.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ottevanger, Jeremy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: NPG / Wikimedia


Indeed. Much like the principle behind the Free Our Data campaign. Yes,
there are lots of subtleties and complications that this glosses over,
but the big picture has to be, we own the stuff as members of the human
race and the society that pays for their acquisition and maintenance.

Jeremy



Jeremy Ottevanger
Web Developer, Museum Systems Team
Museum of London
46 Eagle Wharf Road
London. N1 7ED
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-----Original Message-----
From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Phil Blume
Sent: 15 July 2009 14:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MCG] NPG / Wikimedia

My twopenneth...

The copyright to objects owned by publicly-funded institutions should
belong
to the public. Any restriction are likely counter to the institutional
remit
and certainly against the public interest.

Phil Blume



2009/7/15 J DAVIS <[log in to unmask]>

> This is not expressing opprobium, Nick...(do see where you're coming
from,
> but...)
> I merely ask rhetorically: what chance does UK cultural heritage have
in
> influencing what is (in effect) European copyright legislation when it
> doesn't seem to have that much influence over UK heritage legislation?
>
> Janet
>
>
> --- On Wed, 15/7/09, Nick Poole wrote:
>
> > ...This kind of discussion always resolves down to assertions
> > beginning 'we need...' without really clarifying whether
> > 'we' really have sufficient influence to enact these things,
> > or to express them clearly to those who can...
>
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