Rachel, I don't know if you know a wonderful young Canadian poet named Rachel Zolf.
She has worked a bunch in writing manuals based on info in corporate database vaults. She infuses here lines with words prefaced, for example,
909chloride1004management silo C
Her Database lyrics that end up savaging their source. (I think she told me that every word - in that world - has a numerical equivalent). I think her book is called, Human Resources (Coach House Press). I really wasn't worried about purgatory as much the world were in! The ghosts are just derivatives! I've been told and, no, they can't be swapped.
Yes, goodnight!
Stephen V
--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rachel Loden <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Rachel Loden <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: a visit to the possum (at poetry daily today)
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 5:35 PM
Stephen, I don't mean that I like them to be caught in purgatory. I mean
that I like the image -- because I think all of us are caught in these
databases, whether we like it or not. We are the ghosts we've been warned
about. "A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many..." Goonight.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Vincent
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: a visit to the possum (at poetry daily today)
>
> "I like the notion of the ghosts as half in the databases,
> and half out --
> each caught in that purgatory."
>
> Rachel, I think the Jews have had enough, let alone a few
> other tribes. I say keep the ghosts - more fun, at least more
> fun for writing- and leave the codes for dull and the DMV!
> (Lots of luck!)
>
> Stephen
>
>
>
>
> > Stephen Vincent wrote:
> >
> > If my memory serves me well, Earp is in the Jewish
> > cemetery(??). His wife was Jewish.
> > In San Francisco; two of the Jewish synagogues had cemeteries
> > in what is now Dolores Park - two blocks from where I live.
> > In 1890 or so the graves were lifted (unburied) and taken
> > down to Colma (between 5 & 10 miles away). Personally I
> > don't believe all the graves were emptied, nor the bones of
> > the Ohlone Indians that preceded the Jews. On a good day you
> > get the ghosts. The ones that no one could ever fit into a
> data-base.
> >
> > Earp,I believe, without going to Google, was buried in Colma
> > after the 1890 bone removal. So no local ghostly sight of a
> > Stetson bearing man - but that would be neat (I think!).
> >
> > I count those ghosts among my friends - mostly!
> >
> > Congratulations Rachel!
> >
> > Stephen
> > http://stephenvincent.net/blog/
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: a visit to the possum (at poetry daily today)
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 11:00 AM
> >
> > Did they really bury Earp in his stetson? Waste of a good
> hat. A hat
> > to hang a head on.
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 6/19/2009, you wrote:
> > >There are no dead pets in the poem, though, unless we want
> > to imagine Tom as
> > >Ezra's pet.
> > >
> > >Dead poets, maybe -- dead pets, no.....
> > >
> > >Catherine Daly wrote:
> > >
> > > > the dead pets are in Daly City, tho
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Rachel Loden
> > > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear P'etceteras,
> > > > >
> > > > > De-lurking briefly to say that "Dear Possum," my riff on a
> > > > few lines from
> > > > > "The Waste Land," is at Poetry Daily today:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://poems.com/poem.php?date=14415
> > > > > <blocked::http://poems.com/poem.php?date=14415>
> > > > >
> > > > > and will be in their archives for a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Back under the black waves but looking forward to summer
> > > > >
> > > > > (and, I hope, being here),
> > > > >
> > > > > Rachel
> > > > >
> > > > > http://ahsahtapress.boisestate.edu/books/loden/loden.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > All best,
> > > > Catherine Daly
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> >
>
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