Hi all,

just a quick note regarding Susan's comment Facebook and other applications - one suggestion for a more 'professional one' would be Linkedin (http://www.linkedin.com/) which does also have the opportunity to create groups.

Personally I'm a member of Linkedin, but (at least this far) have been seldomly using it - I'll be quite happy to join the facebook group as well if this is what the PGR group will continue using 

Thanks,
emma



Original Message-----
From: Susan Ryland <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:13:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Facebook

 Hi Yemisi,

Firstly - welcome! The work you (and your predecessors) do for us is greatly
appreciated.

With regards to Gerard's comments - I understand how he feels about
Facebook, when he says 'Let's use a social utility that isnt commercially
owned, and doesnt sell nor ask for personal data of its users.'

For me, Facebook is problematic because it is hard to separate the
professional from the personal - it feels invasive.

In my opinion, we need a dedicated social networking system that is
tailor-made for the international research community - across all the
disciplines.  Personally, I would have no problem with it providing resource
information through 'integrated advertising'.

Does such a thing currently exist?  If not, I would be happy to work with
others to develop it.  Any thoughts?

Regards,

Susan

Susan Ryland
PhD candidate
Arts and Media
University for the Creative Arts



2008/9/7 Salvatore Scifo <[log in to unmask]>

Dear Gerard,
> many thanks for the information about Facebook.
> As this list has among its members Media, Communications, Cultural and Film
> Studies, and Media Practice, PhD Students and young researchers do you
> really think that no one of us is aware of Facebook's business model and its
> structure?
> Moreover, if you are so concerned why you have a public profile on Facebook
> itself? (http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard_Choo/631595703, apologies
> in advance if I used Google, another 'privately held business that makes
> profit for its shareholdrs by selling ads linked to information on its
> users' to search this...)
>
> I am sorry to use such a tone, but your message seems a bit too harsh in
> replying to someone presenting herself and informing the members about
> current and new communication tools.(no 'Dear xxxx, or signature....again
> Google tells me you are a Senior Lecturer in Public Relations at LeedsMet, I
> wonder if you are postgrad student at all...).
> Yemisi, as Iain and myself before them were/are giving our time voluntarily
> to facilitate communications among postgrad students and young researchers
> in our area of study. The website, the mailing list, the facebook group and
> any other public/privately owned tool are used for this aim.
>
> If Facebook is not something you like, be propositive and suggest to the
> list other solutions and their pros and cons. If a consistent number of the
> members would like the PGN to communicate also with another channel then I
> guess that this can be easily done. Let's bear in mind that the Facebook
> group as already 70 members (including myself) and I am quite happy (and
> aware) to use Facebook.
>
> If the discussion of this matter is felt not relevant to the list I am
> quite happy to discuss it privately (or on Facebook) with other interested
> members of this list.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Salvatore Scifo
>
> Ph.D candidate
> Communication and Media Research Institute
> University of Westminster
> Profile: http://www.wmin.ac.uk/mad/page-1457
>
> Former Communications Officer and Member of the MeCCSA PGN Executive
> Committee (2005-2008)
>
>
>
>
>
> Yemisi Ogunleye wrote:
>
>> Hi Gerard,
>> Thank you for this interesting comment. Would you like to make any
>> suggestions?
>>
>> Yemisi
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Choo, Gerard <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Facebook calls itself a 'social utility' but it is a privately held
>>> business that makes profit for its shareholdrs by selling ads linked to
>>> information on its users - what it calls 'integrated advertising'.
>>> http://www.facebook.com/business/
>>> http://www.facebook.com/ads/
>>>
>>> Microsoft bought a stake in Facebook precisely to drive its 'integrated
>>> advertising' business.
>>>
>>> Let's use a social utility that isnt commercially owned, and doesnt sell
>>> nor ask for personal data of its users.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: MeCCSA - Postgraduate Network on behalf of Yemisi Ogunleye
>>> Sent: Sun 9/7/2008 1:29 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: New Communications Officer - MeCCSA-PGN
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> I would like to introduce myself YEMISI OGUNLEYE, as your new
>>> Commincations Officer for MeCCSA PGN. Iain Smith handed over to me
>>> this weekend, and as a result of our discussion, it was decided that
>>> the following features should be added to the communication you
>>> receive from MeCCSA PGN:
>>>
>>> - Facebook: I hope you have all joined the Facebook group for MeCCSA
>>> PGN. In order to make the group more interactive, I will be sending
>>> all weekly updates to your facebook inbox as well as to your emails.
>>> This is primarily to encourage discussions and feedback through the
>>> application;
>>>
>>> - Job listings: These were previously sent as individual emails to
>>> your addresses, however, as some people have complained about this, I
>>> would like to encourage those that would like to received these emails
>>> as one bulk email to change their mailing settings in Jiscmail. This
>>> can be found under the 'join or leave MeCCSA PGN' link;
>>>
>>> - Circulation: I would be happy to circulate any information that
>>> members would like help circulating. This could be anything from
>>> information on events, request for accommodation or availability of
>>> accomodation, help with circulating questionnaires for your research,
>>> and any other general information you would like me to pass on to
>>> other members.
>>>
>>> These are just three changes I hope would benefit all our members. I
>>> encourage you all to send me any other suggestions, and perhaps to use
>>> the facebook group to submit your suggestions and create discussions.
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing from you all.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards.
>>>
>>> Yemisi Ogunleye (Miss)
>>> PhD Student
>>> Birmingham City University
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to
>>> http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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