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On the wall paintings in the chapel at Wearmouth, see
Paul Meyvaert, "Bede and the Church Painitngs at
Wearmoth-Jarrow," Anglo-Saxon England 8 (1979):
63-77.
GHB
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>Jim, Christopher and others,
>
>Interesting quote, Christopher. And yes, Jim, I
>did think of the Victorines and Hugh
>(naturally!!) but the phrase itself is
>interesting, since christian manuscripts from
>late antiquity forward had texts and
>pictures--and not just as Gregory has it,
>pictures for the illiterate; (Hugh has that same
>"topos" in one of his analyses of the relation
>of the works of creation to those of restoration
>and who can read these "books").
>
>what is perhaps more interesting is the case of
>Bede. The church at Wearmouth had pictures
>(i.e. paintings on panels, one presumes, cf. the
>ref later to Peter Hunter Blair) that Benedict
>Biscop obtained from Rome (on his own or through
>the efforts of others.) Bede describes these
>and their placement. He calls the entire
>painting a pictura; a pictura contains imagines,
>which PHB understands as individual divine or
>human figures in a pictura. According to PHB's
>account of Bede (The World of Bede, reissue with
>corrections, CUP, 1990 [it would seem]), pp.
>172-173) the walls of St. Peter's church had
>paintings of the Gospels on the south wall and
>of the Apocalypse on the north wall. Bede
>describes another painting or several paintings
>that show(s) the BVM and 12 apostles (see PHB p.
>173 for details of this and speculation on where
>it was placed.) PHB speculates that the
>paintings (which were brought from Rome) may
>have been done in wax on linen, then affixed to
>wooden panels. PHB also refers to Gregory's
>attitude toward images and compares it with
>Bede's.
>
>Also the Codex Amiatinus, fol. IIr-IIIr had a
>plan of the tabernacle of Moses, with
>descriptive annotations. Cf. _Bede: On the
>Temple_, tr. Seán Connolly with intro by
>Jennifer O'Reilly. Translated Texts for
>Historians, 21. (Liverpool Univ. Press, 1995).
>The plan is reproduced in a sketch as the
>frontispiece.
>
>One of course also thinks of "teaching devices"
>like the genealogy of Christ (inscribed with
>written genealogy and also images/pictura)
>devised for teaching by Peter of Poitiers (c 12).
>
>It will be interesting to see what others say about this quotation.
>There may some useful/interesting texts in works
>from cathedral and/or monastic schools.
>
>best
>
>Grover
>
>
>Grover A. Zinn
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>former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>Oberlin College
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>On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:26 PM, jbugslag wrote:
>
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>>>[p. 713, #3000]
>>>Iuvenes quoque et pueros quos...sapidos invenit, per diversa scolarum
>>>studia cirucumquaque dispertivit; quorum certe postea servimine variam
>>>ac multiplicem suae ecclesiae utilitatem **in lectione scriptura et
>>>pictura** ac plurali honestiori clericalis officii disciplina
>>>conquisivit.
>>>
>>>
>>>i take this to mean that the saintly bishop taught the young
>>>(soon-to-be) clerics under his care (perhaps even including the author
>>>of the Vita) to "read text [/writings, or perhaps, Scripture] and
>>>pictures [/images]..."
>>
>>Christopher,
>>Off the top of my head, this is something one
>>associates more with Hugh of St Victor and the
>>other Victorines of the 12th century. It seems
>>a bit perplexing to come across such an idea
>>so much earlier than that. At that date, it is
>>more usual to find references to images as the
>>"books of the illiterate" in relation to Pope
>>Gregory the Great's pronouncements, but that is
>>clearly not what is involved here.
>>Cheers,
>>Jim
>>
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