I've implemented an authorization mechanism to restrict access to a
particular service only to HE & FE. The authorization is done using an xml
file which checks the affiliation. This works fine for sites which have an
IDP. However, one site (uclan.ac.uk) which is using the Athens EduServ entry
from the WAYF list got an authorization denied from my Shib SP. I checked
the various shibd/transaction log files but could not find anything for this
site:-( uclan is using the EduServ Athens gateway. Are the affiliation
values meant to be set when those sites which are using 3rd party shib
providers such as the Eduserv Athens gw ?
Thanks
Thierry.
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Sent: 20 May 2008 18:43
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Subject: Re: UK federation VO
They login either using an Athens login or through the UK federation by
selecting "Eduserv Athens" from the UK federation WAYF.
Jane
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Sent: Tue 20/05/2008 18:38
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Subject: Re: UK federation VO
Hi Jane,
Thanks. Those which are using 3rd party providers such as the Eduserv Athens
do not appear in the uk federation WAYF list. How do they login when they
need to access a Shib protected service ?
Best Regards,
Thierry.
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Sent: 20 May 2008 13:31
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Hi Thierry
Yes, it might be that they have outsourced their IdP to a third party
provider eg. Eduserv Athens, have decided to outsource their IdP but haven't
yet chosen one or are still in the process of sorting out their LDAP
directory and implementing their IdP. To see which institutions have chosen
Eduserv Athens as their IdP you can look in the metadata file available on
the UK federation website
http://metadata.ukfederation.org.uk/ukfederation-metadata.xml (search for
"Athens/Shibboleth gateway").
Message to everyone on the list:
All UK further and higher education institutions (except those few that have
decided to only use IP access) must join the UK federation by 31st July
whether they are using an outsourced IdP or have implemented their own IdP
otherwise their users will lose access to resources. It is therefore very
important for UK institutions to join the UK federation and either choose an
outsourced IdP or have implemented their own IdP by 31st July (or sooner).
Kind regards,
Jane
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From: Discussion list for Shibboleth developments on behalf of Thierry
Delaitre
Sent: Tue 20/05/2008 12:52
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Subject: Re: UK federation VO
>The fallback position (which we will be using ourselves if a more general
>approach is not available in time) is to select from the federation
>metadata the scopes of all IdP organisations of interest. The metadata
>contains both the verified name of the organisation (which can be
>compared with the lists Sean Dunne mentioned) and the scope.
I've implemented and automated the above using some some XSLT, MySQL and
PHP. This then creates a shibboleth ACL in xml format which I can use to
authorise HE & HE only.
Looking at the stats, there are 170 HE institutions in the JISC banding and
only 61 have an IDP. There are 465 FE institutions in the JISC banding and
only 18 have an IDP. Many of those which do not have an IDP seem to be
members of the UK federation. Is there any reason why they are not
installing an IDP ?
>The SP then has to authorise based on eduPersonScopedAffiliation having one
of
>the selected scopes (and member, staff, student etc. as required).
Thierry.
Systems and Service Manager
School of Informatics
University of Westminster.
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