David,
I am glad to see that, given no change in licencing till 2012, the MLA will now revisit the issue.
I would, however, personally question the reilance on AUP's - if we put such statements in, whist pushing to increase network capacity, enable the PC's and relax the security to enable streaming media, as exhorted to by the MLA in recent years to support library content creation and meet user demand, will the TV Licencing Authority not see that as contradictory? Perhaps we need them to sue a library authority to create a test case?
As to filtering, I asked 'how'? As each authorty connects separately and differently, it will indeed be necessary to do it locally, but I am happy to confess complete ignorance as to how we might allow access to a generally 'non-live' TV stream, but block the odd live transmission on that stream. If anyone can advise how - and how much it will cost! - I'd be very grateful.
And as to schools and other council bodies - is there perhaps strength in mumbers? A joint approach on the issue by DCMS, DCSF and DCLG perhaps?
Regards
JU
John Usher
ICT Development Manager
Islington Library & Cultural Services
Islington Council
Central Library
2 Fieldway Crescent
LONDON N5 1PF
Tel: 020 7527 6920
Mobile: 07825 098 223
Fax: 020 7527 6926
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>
-----Original Message-----
From: David Dawson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 06 May 2008 00:04
To: Usher, John; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: MLA guidance on TV licences
All
This has been an interesting set of discussions.
The MLA guidance was developed in conjunction with the BBC, and in
discussion with DCMS.
As Katharine Spackman has confirmed, the guidance is pragmatic, as it
relies on Acceptable Use Policies to ensure that users do not watch live
TV on library computers. As a result, libraries do not need to purchase
a TV licence.
To take John's options
1. All libraries to have a TV licence?
The guidance was developed to avoid libraries having to purchase
a TV licence
2. Live broadcasts to be filtered - but how?
Filtering would need to be implemented at a local authority
level
3. Get the MLA (and/or SCL?), the BBC and the TV Licensing Authority
round a table to sort out the issue and come to an agreement we will all
have to live with , until someone changes their minds (like the VAT on
audio/video charges/fines issue)?
I would suggest that this this is the situation we now have. Any
change in the TV licencing regime would require amending the relevant
Broadcasting Act. It is worth remembering that other council locations,
such as schools, also need to purchase a TV licence if they are to
receive TV programmes.
4. Abolish the licence fee - and the problem goes away. But then so
probably does the BBC...
A change in the BBC licence fee can only come after the end of
the current BBC Charter in 2012
We will be looking again at the advice to see if it needs updating in
the light of the rollout of iPlayer as a mainstream BBC service. It was
developed during the pilot stage of iPlayer, and before similar services
were offered by other broadcasters.
David
David Dawson
Senior Policy Adviser - Digital Futures
Museums, Libraries and Archives Council (MLA)
Victoria House, Southampton Row, London WC1B 4EA
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-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Usher, John
Sent: 02 May 2008 16:12
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: MLA guidance on TV licences
1. All libraries to have a TV licence?
or
2. Live broadcasts to be filtered - but how?
or
3. Get the MLA (and/or SCL?), the BBC and the TV Licensing Authority
round a table to sort out the issue and come to an agreement we will all
have to live with , until someone changes their minds (like the VAT on
audio/video charges/fines issue)?
or
4. Abolish the licence fee - and the problem goes away. But then so
probably does the BBC...
I don't have the answer to 2. and suspect that 3. and 4 are unlikely to
happen 'anytime soon', so my money's on 1. being inevitable, further
eroding our budgets.
And will we end up like the pubs, where Sky hiked their fees on the
basis that the Sky service increased pub profits, so they were entitled
to a share?
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/?p=1499
Will we end up with, in the end, an even higher licence fee for
libraries, unless we have a similar arrangement that Microsoft has for a
reduced 'academic' price for their applications provided we don't charge
for the PC's?
Unless we have a national library agreement with the national TV
agencies, will we ever come to a conclusion?
Just a thought!
JU
John Usher
ICT Development Manager
Islington Library & Cultural Services
Islington Council
Central Library
2 Fieldway Crescent
LONDON N5 1PF
Tel: 020 7527 6920
Mobile: 07825 098 223
Fax: 020 7527 6926
Alternative contact: Michelle Gannon - 020 7527 6907
www.islington.gov.uk
> How to get to Central Library:
http://www.islington.gov.uk/Education/Libraries/Local/Central.asp
>
-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Day Robert
Sent: 02 May 2008 15:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LIS-PUB-LIBS] MLA guidance on TV licences
I understand the desire to change AUPs to reflect advice received but
realistically, without filtering out live broadcasts, how can such a
clause be monitored and enforced? It may be obvious if, say, the FA Cup
final was being viewed but less so for many other live events.
Robert Day
IT Manager
Cambridgeshire Libraries
-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Brown, Alan
Sent: 02 May 2008 08:43
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: MLA guidance on TV licences
At 01 May 2008 10:50 David Tanner wrote:
> their programmes aren't streamed live at the moment
> Some are, BBC News 24 streams live as do certain sports events.
I must admit I thought that we would not need to change our AUP because
there was no live streamed TV on the internet - certainly iplayer wasn't
anything to worry about. Now that I find I am wrong I will have to
change our AUP.
--
Alan Brown
Library Systems Liaison Officer
Resource Services
Bury Libraries
Textile Hall
Manchester Rd
Bury
BL9 0DG
Tel 0161 253 5877
Fax 0161 253 6003
http://www.bury.gov.uk/libraries
http://library.bury.gov.uk
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