medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Jon Cannon wrote:
>
> I noted in my list that suffragans had a range of titular sees, and
> sometimes worked for more than one bishop, though neither are at the
> nub of your interest. But I also noted one example of a suffragan
> with an English preferment, which is I think more what you are after
> - though in this it was not an archdeaconry, rather it was nothing
> less than a bishopric: - Carlisle. In this case there were very
> specific political circumstances behind the appointment. Interesting,
> all the same.
I think of Suffragans as outsiders, hired in to deputise for the bishop.
Sometimes they have a variety of preferments, but not necessarily in the
diocese where they are working. That is what struck me as diffrent about
Hatton: he was a prebendary of York *before* he became
archdeacon/suffragan - which is why I still see him as an "internal
promotion".
> I didn't note anyone who had other English titles, but I have to say
> this feature - which I now belatedly realise is what you are most
> interested in - would not have been picked up by me because it
> doesn't particularly suprise me. Surely archdeaconries or other
> titles might be handed out by a bishop seeking to bolster either the
> role, or the standing, or (if a prebend came with them, as was
> sometimes the case) the income of anyone particularly crucial to his
> administration or his familia? I wonder if Suffragans might even yet
> prove tobe a particularly common example of this, if they had no
> income from their titular see. Indeed (not quite the same point I
> know), some archdeaconries - Kent, Richmond come to mind - were
> associated with high standing and a kind of quasi-episcopal power in
> and of themselves.
>
> In other words, in certain circumstances it seems to me to be quite a
> normal medieval practise to give such posts to a suffragan,
> vicar-general or suchlike. I wonder if it was in fact quiet common,
> just rarely noted.
I suppose they might have been paid out of the income of such posts (if they
were left vacant) rather than being appointed to them.
John Briggs
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