OK. I normally don't say anything but I'm finding this back and forth
argument ridiculous. I assume you are both adults but with the rude and
snippy remarks on both sides, I would think you were both 12. My mother
used to always tell me that when someone acts petty or makes insulting
remarks, to be the bigger person and walk away. It's hard advice to take
when your 12 but as an adult I've found it very useful. ALSO, most
importantly, I follow the advice of will this affect you in a month, a year,
your lifetime? I would say in the case of this string of conversation, it
wouldn't affect you in anyway.
I'm not sure if you are threatening to go so the rest of us will beg you
back, but if this is the kind of conversations that will result from that,
then I don't want that. I'm from a family of guilters and I can read it a
mile away.
Please please all, in future, can we keep our tempers in check, act like the
adults we are and continue to have the joyous and stimulating conversation
that I enjoy from this list? Even though I don't always write, I do enjoy
reading and don't appreciate when it degrades to tempers and tantrums.
Heather
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Duemer [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 31 October 2007 12:00
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Apology
Hi everyone. I want to apologize to the list for being the cause of this
recent flame out. I like and enjoy you people and am sorry to have caused
trouble. I specifically exclude Joe Green from this apology, however. I
detest loudmouth know-it-alls & simply will not be in the room with them,
even a virtual room. Here is what went down, from my perspective: I had
grown weary, over the months, or Green's sniping anti-academic bullshit and
when he served up that remark about never having liked bad poetry -- an
insult to everyone who was discussing "reevaluations" & not just an insult,
but a preening, self-aggrandizing insult -- I let him have it. I'm not
sorry. As a matter of fact, I think his poetry is bad as well.
So I am going to set my account to not deliver any Poetryetc mail & I'll
busy my self with other things. I will remain subscribed and will remain
(with Anny) a co-manager of the list, though on leave, as it were. (Sorry,
Green, I know how much you want the job.) In a month or so, I will check
back in, with the hope of finding the lively community I know & admire. At
that point, Anny & I will decide how best to proceed. And if I may offer a
bit of advice, list members ought to be recruiting new participants &
Poetryetc ought to try to bring back some earlier members who have drifted
away. If I decide to continue, this is something I will also try to do.
Another idea would be for the list to nominate a small group of "elders" --
long-time list members, to advise the list managers when conflicts arise.
Finally, I have been corresponding with Jiscmail regarding the long delays
in posting messages to the list. There appear to have been two server-side
issues, one masking the other. As of this morning, those seem to be
resolved. I will keep my eye on the list-owners' forum & let Anny know if
there are other problems.
For the nonce,
jd
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Joseph Duemer
Professor of Humanities
Clarkson University
[sharpsand.net]
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