Martin
you can find the Dorling essay on line here:
http://www.crimeandsociety.org.uk/briefings/harm.html
Will McMahon
Quoting Professor David Gordon <[log in to unmask]>:
> Dear Martin
>
> You keep posting prejudice and wholly unsubstantiated claims to this
> list. What on earth is your evidence for the claim that 'murderers
> tend mostly to target members of their own ethnic group'?
>
> It is very clear from Danny Dorling's careful analyses of the murder
> statistics by cause of death/method of killing that there is a steep
> social gradient for murder with guns and area deprivation/wealth - in
> general the 'richer' an area the higher the rate of murder using
> guns. Between 1981 and 2000 over 20 percent of murders in the
> richest quintile of areas were by 'firearms' whereas under 10 percent
> of murders were by firearms in the 'poorest' 20 percent of areas.
>
> The murder statistics clearly show that although gun murders are not
> confined to the richer areas of Britain, they provide stark evidence
> that that rich and wealthy communities are over-represented to a
> frightening degree.
>
> David Gordon
>
> Ref
> DORLING, D. (2004) Prime Suspect: Murder in Britain. In Hillyard, P.,
> Pantazis, C., Tombs, S. and Gordon, D. (Eds) (2004) Beyond
> Criminology: Taking Harm Seriously. London, Pluto.
>
> --On 28 June 2007 16:15 +0100 Martin Sewell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> At 15:04 27/06/2007 +0100, John Barker wrote:
>>>
>>> Second, is gun and knife crime higher in Black or possibly more
>>> restricted, Carribean origin communities in Britain than other ethnic
>>> groups?
>>
>> "In 2004-05, there were 78 fatal shootings in England and Wales. Of
>> these, 40 of the victims were white, 25 black, seven Asian. The figures
>> do not record the ethnicity of the killers but, by and large, murderers
>> tend mostly to target members of their own ethnic group.
>>
>> In 2005-06, there were 50 fatal shootings. Eighteen victims were white,
>> 19 black and four Asian. That same year, 351 black people were injured by
>> guns. For whites, injuries totalled 2,952.
>>
>> The statistics confirm that the problem of gun crime is not unique to the
>> black community, but they provide stark evidence that the black community
>> is over-represented to a frightening degree.
>>
>> According to the 2001 Home Office census, Britain's black community makes
>> up just 2 per cent of the total population. Yet each year around a third
>> of all shooting victims are black. About one in 10 victims are of Asian
>> origin, a population that makes up just 4 per cent of Britain's total."
>>
>> Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2449974.ece
>>
>> Martin
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