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Subject:

Re: Plagiarism in context

From:

Derek Ord <[log in to unmask]>

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Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Derek Ord <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:12:04 +0100

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A comment related to (1) below.


I totally agree with what you write here.  However, I am interested in how
institutions deal with the problems that arise when students move to a
different institution, particularly when moving from undergraduate to taught
postgraduate study.  Students have learnt a certain "style" and set of rules
and (hopefully) stuck to them for 3 years.  They then may need to very
quickly learn new styles and rules, as their postgraduate course may be
relatively short.  I'm sure that most students don't consider this when
making choices of where to study.

Does anyone have any proven techniques or good ideas for getting around this
problem?


Thanks



Derek.
_________________________________
Derek Ord
Head of Student Administrative Services
University of Hull
(01482) 465980


-----Original Message-----
From: Plagiarism [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon
Appleton
Sent: 07 June 2006 20:39
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Plagiarism in context


At the risk of going round the circle again, I would just 
like to make two points:

1) there are a lot of different citation systems out there 
and, as the recent interchange has shown, there are a lot of 
different views amongst academics about what does, and what 
does not, constitute plagiarism.  While students should be 
made aware that there are different systems, it is essential 
that each institution clearly sets out those systems that it 
will accept and which it will not (and actively teaches 
students how to use the former).

Not to do so can lead to the totally unacceptable situation 
(which although extreme did actually occur, albeit some time 
ago and could not do so now) where a Joint Honours student 
was writing a 3rd year dissertation that spanned the two 
(diverse) subject areas, was recommended to use a particular 
citation system by one subject area and was told by the 
other subject area that if they did, they would be 
disciplined for plagiarism.

Similarly, each institution must clearly define what it 
regards as plagiarism and then ensure that *all* its staff 
apply that definition since not to do so makes it impossible 
to teach students consistently what plagiarism is and how to 
avoid committing it.  Similarly, institutions need to ensure 
that whatever system they have for penalising plagiarism, it 
apply consistent penalties to students who breach that 
definition.  I'm sure that how this objective can be 
attained could be the subject of an even more extensive 
email exchange than the present one but, as I understand it, 
the main/ most frequent criticism of the OIA in complaints 
involving plagiarism has been inconsistency on the part of 
the institution.

Perhaps the debates that will be generated inside an 
institution by the determined introduction of such 
institution wide policies will spill over into the wider 
academia and enable us to develop a common understanding of 
the issues across institutions ...

2) The question of intent: For the record, Oxford Brookes 
does have clear regulations and policy that sets out the 
definition of plagiarism that I enunciated, ie one where the 
question of intent is irrelevant to the finding that someone 
has committed plagiarism while being one factor (although 
not an over-riding one) in determining the appropriate 
penalty.  My clearly too diffident wording was not because I 
was articulating a personal view but because I recognise 
that other institutions and other individuals have different 
definitions of plagiarism and that I could not assume a 
common approach to the issue.  (I am not clear to what 
extent any of us are articulating anything other than 
subjective views.)

I am also clear (again, as is Oxford Brookes) that all 
assessments of whether a student has committed plagiarism 
are matters of academic judgement.  Thus, if in the 
considered judgement of those in the relevant academic 
field, the work appears to pass the work of others off as 
that of the author, then it is plagiarism.  And that is a 
judgement that academics are eminently equipped to make, in 
the same way that they can and do make judgements about 
whether a piece of work is first class, barely scrapes a 
pass or is a fail.  While judgements about plagiarism are 
indeed subjective, so are all matters of academic judgement. 
  Such judgements can be made more objective by using 
detailed assessment criteria based on the various learning 
outcomes  of the course and at Oxford Brookes we are working 
to develop similar aids relating to plagiarism.  However, I 
am far from confident (pace Erik Borg) that academics are 
(or can reasonably be expected to become) anything like as 
well equipped to judge whether a student submitted a 
significantly plagiarised piece of work deliberately because 
they had run out of time to do anything else or 
unintentionally because they did not understand what they 
were supposed to be doing.

I stand with Ian Gordon on this issue and the very useful 
concept of "more or less wilful negligence" for which 
authors have to take responsibility.

Jon Appleton
Oxford Brookes

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