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Dear Kerry,
Petrus was born in all probability in Huesca in Aragon and converted to
Christianity in the days of king Alfonso I or under the aegis of this king.
I will try to find uot something about the person in the Biblioteca Nacional
de Madrid. I think that some scholars like Orfali or Frantz Baer wrote or
mentioned him.
Uriel
>From: "V. Kerry Inman" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: [M-R] About Petrus Alfonsi
>Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:19:53 -0400
>
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>Sorry, in my plethora of mail, I missed the reference. I am most
>interested in
>the person rather than the tales. The tales are well discussed, but I am
>looking at things like his birth place, schooling, languages, etc. I am
>not
>yet totally convinced that the tales come from India though there are
>excellent
>arguments, but then again I am interested in HOW stuff got to England from
>the
>Arabs. It is definitely there as early as Offa King of Mercia, and an
>earlier
>Arab version has been argued to exist for some of Chaucer's work. I am
>still
>on the skeptical side. Thanks for any continuing help you may give.
>
>--V. K. Inman
>
>Quoting John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>culture
> >
> > Dear Kerry,
> >
> > On Monday, July 4, 2005, at 3:37 pm, you wrote in response to Uriel Erez
> > Jacac:
> >
> > > Thank you, and thank you to the person who gave me his Latin name,
> > > but I haven't
> > > really found much more about him.
> >
> > Does this mean that you didn't find much more about Petrus Alfonsi in
> > the collection of essays on him to which I pointed you or, instead, that
> > you haven't had time yet in which to read these essays? Of course, if
> > you haven't had time for the latter, then presumably you also haven't
> > had time to delve into the bibliography provided by Bruno W. Häuptli in
> > his article on P. in the Bautz _Biographisch-Bibliographisches
> > Kirchenlexikon_, conveniently on-line at:
> > http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/p/petrus_alf.shtml
> > and readily findable through the Google phrase search cited in my
> > previous communication in this thread.
> >
> > > ... His major contribution however
> > > is his
> > > catalogue of sermon illustrations which appear to be an early
> > > version of
> > > AEsop's fables.
> >
> > P.'s _Disciplina clericalis_, as edited by Alfons Hilka and Werner
> > Söderhjelm, is conveniently on-line at:
> > http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/alfonsi.disciplina.html
> > You might have a look at this or at one of the _Disciplina clericalis_'
> > two twentieth-century English translations. A quick comparison of these
> > fables with those of "Aesop" (the conventional designation for the
> > collection of Greek-language fables that circulated anciently and
> > medievally under this name) will show that the former are not a version
> > of the latter.
> >
> > > This gives support to the idea that the tales came
> > > through Al-Andalus from India.
> >
> > P.'s tales, yes. "Aesop"'s, no.
> >
> > Best again,
> > The person who gave you (the today most commonly used form of) Pedro's
> > Latin name.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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