Curious to me how the Bush Admininistration portrays "torture" as a national
benefit, the way itprotects 'us', 'our way of life', etc."
Isn't it, I think, similar to the way Slavery prior the Civil War was also
portrayed and supported also as a national benefit.
Doug, all reports outside the Bush Way, indicate that Iraq is already deeply
into a civil war, and the elections have cemented this war as a way of life
(sadly). Bush folks - in total defiance of reality - will keep spouting
"democracy" so they can out of there before total collapse. They will have
to deal for the oil through other venues than a collapsing democratic
charade.
Talk about "unintended consequences" - the same folks brought us Enron & Co.
as a model for fiction mongering.
Oh, well, a happy Solstice to all!
Stephen V
> Yes, exactly, that news has been around, as you say.
>
> The changes in government in South America these days are interesting,
> if only because it seems the US government (& CIA) don't seem to feel
> they can just go in & take these new leftist leaders out the way they
> did in Chile back in the day....
>
> too busy bringing democracy to the Middle East...? (not that an
> unimposed & perhaps real (vaid?) democracy there wouldn't be a good
> thing....).
>
> Doug
> On 20-Dec-05, at 11:13 AM, Roger Day wrote:
>
>> For a long time, certainly before 9/11 and way back even to the 80s
>> I've read articles involving torture and the School Of The Americas
>> in Fort Benning, Georgia, where apparently the CIA train officers and
>> NCOs from Latin American countries.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On 12/20/05, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I am listening to CBC's The Current as I write, to a USAmerican
>>> psychologist, Alfred McCoy, author of A Question of Torture, on the
>>> US's use of torture, and how what is happening now is leading to the
>>> normalization of torture by the US. He's especially appalled by the
>>> way
>>> the US representatives to the international community continue to
>>> 'lie'
>>> (basically his term) saying that the US does not torture, when in fact
>>> he asserts it has done so for decades, & much more so now.
>>>
>>> Not the merriest of news in this week....
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Douglas Barbour
>>> 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
>>> Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
>>> (780) 436 3320
>>>
>>> the precision of openness
>>> is not a vagueness
>>> it is an accumulation
>>> cumulous
>>>
>>> bpNichol
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
> Douglas Barbour
> 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> (780) 436 3320
>
> the precision of openness
> is not a vagueness
> it is an accumulation
> cumulous
>
> bpNichol
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