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I might add that the whole Tortosa Disputation was staged by BXIII as a
way of reasserting is credibility as Pope.
Jeffrey Woolf
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> Hi Phyllis- no way that Benedict XIII abdicated. In 1398 France and Spain
> withdrew their obedience and he just ignored it. France came backto his
> obedience in 1404. He hung on well past the Council of Constance.Tough and
> stubborn old bird, he was. Best, Sharon
>
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> Sharon Dale Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Art History
> Penn State Erie, The Behrend College
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> Subject: [M-R] Vincent Ferrer
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> > Don't ask me---my specialty is 10th- and 11th-century Germany!!Farmer,
> in
> > his Oxford Dictionary of Saints, says that Vincent "had notable success in
> > arousing Christians to repentance and converting Jews, including the Rabbi
> > Paul who became bishop of Cartagena."In what way was Vincent "famous in
> > regard to Jews"?Farmer is also the source I used for Vincent's role in
> > ending the schism---that first he begged the Avignonese Benedict XIII to
> be
> > reconciled, then to abdicate, and finally got Ferdinandof Aragon to
> > withdraw support.
> >
> > Phyllis
> > >
> > >Dear Phyllis: What sources deal with Vincent Ferrer's "conversion"
> > >of Jews?He was a rather famous fellow in regard to Jews! John
> >
> > and
> >
> > Phyllis, I too, have a question about your Vincent Ferrer source. I
> slogged
> > through his text De Schismate a few months ago and it has a decidedly
> > pro-Clementine (Avignon obedience) slant. To his credit and because the
> > Spanish Peter of Aragon, his patron, kept representatives with both popes,
> > Ferrer is willing to more carefully weigh the arguments for both popes and
> > his tone is far less shrill than many other commentators but at one point
> he
> > does say( parte III capit I) ,"Necessitate salutis, tenetur firmiter et
> > determinate credere dominum Clementem esse verum papam."all best, Sharon
> > >
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