Dear All,
Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:
http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/minutes/this-week.txt
(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 031117.txt).
Cheers, Tony
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Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
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GridPP PMB Minutes 104 - 17th November 2003
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Present : Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Tony Cass, Robin Middleton, Roger
Jones & John Gordon (for short period only)
By phone: Dave Britton, Roger Barlow, Peter Clarke (for a short period)
Andy Parker (for appx 15')
Apologies: Dave Kelsey
Building Overlapping Grids
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AP had been asked to join today's meeting to discuss the Overlapping Grids
Document. He said the purpose of this was to get the grids working
together and for people to co-operate and recognise common standards of
working. This is being backed by Tony Hey at UK E-Science. He explained
that there were three areas where effort could be developed.
The first area is authorisation and the intention is to build a VOMS-VOM
gateway for users to make it easier for various groups to access common
facilities. He estimated that it would take a short time to set this
up.
The second area is finding resources through an information service.
Globus and EDG already use this facility through the GLUE schema. It is
believed that it will be straightforward to develop this further to link
other grids together.
The third area is resource broking which helps the user to find where the
relevant resources can be found. Testing has already begun on this using
NorduGrid architecture.
In general, the document was warmly welcomed by the PMB. AP said he has
not received comments yet from Tony Hey. TD said a list of recommendations
at the end of the document would be useful. JG said he would email his
comments to AP.(NEW ACTION)
ARDA DOCUMENT
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RJ was asked to speak about the ARDA document that had been produced by
the LHC Computing Grid w.r.t. distributed analysis. He said it was the
intention to build a prototype and that the LCG be recommended to set up a
project to do this. A report has already been given to SC2 and a decision
may be given on 12th December. It was suggested that a short statement
for SC2 be written and channelled through the PEB. There was further
discussion on other components and issues related to this. TD concluded
that the framework was useful as far as it went, but the review process
ariving at AliEn as a starting point implementation was not described. He
asked RM & RJ to draft an e-mail stating the PMB agreed input on this
important area.
(NEW ACTION)
AOB
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TD said that Jeff Tseng had joined the JTB for GridPP and asked if PC
could give him the benefit of his past expertise in this role.
JISC - At the JCSR meeting last Friday Tony Hey had announced that he was
appointing 'champions' for various areas of IT to assist JISC in
targetting effort and money. TD will be the champion for Collaborative
Working.
TD asked for comments on the publicity leaflet recieved from e-Science and
said he had already sent a list of errors to Jim Fleming to be corrected.
All of the board members present said they did not like the title -
"Massive questions expected from GridPP". This could be adapted to
"Massive questions asked by GridPP" but the document was not acceptable
for further circulation in its present form. TD said he had no response
from the errata he had sent from JF or others at EPSRC.
AMcN and DC are presently at the SC2003 (along with PC who would be
arriving later today) and have reported that the demo is going well.
There were no further comments on the GridPP2 tender document.
It was noted that the board were grateful to the IT division of CERN who
said they would sponsor the dinner at the GRidPP10 meeting.
REVIEW OF STANDING ITEMS
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SI-1 : ALL : Continual review/improvement/update of the GridPP website.
SL reported that AMcN had created a new verison of the GridSite that will
allow easy group authorisation for the web pages.
SI-2 : ALL : to provide any news items to SL.
SL said he was re-organising the /talks area but was still waiting for
input from the All Hands 2003 speakers.
REVIEW OF ACTIONS
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99.3: RB to provide agenda for IoP meeting.
ongoing
100.4: JG to finalise job description for Production Manager's role.
done
102.1: DB to send planning assumptions to RM and DK.
done
102.2: JG to make Tier-1 more prominent on the web.
ongoing
102.3: JG come up with a plan as to who the 9.5 EU posts are matched against.
This has ben discussed with TD - EGEE planning needs to be done
ongoing
103.1: DB to prepare a proforma for PMB and update the project map.
proforma - ongoing; project map - done
103.2: RM to provide a news item on RGMA when WP7 finalised.
a draft has been prepared - ongoing
NEW ACTION 104.1: JG to email comments on Overlapping Grids Document to AP
NEW ACTION 104.2: RM & RJ to write a statement about ARDA with regard to
improving the format of the document
Standing Items
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SI-1 : ALL: Continual review/improvement/update of the GridPP website.
SI-2 : ALL: to provide any news items to SL.
SI-3 : ALL: supply SL/TD with meeting dates for the web page.
SI-4 : EB & TB to improve their areas of the web.
ACTIONS AS AT 17TH NOVEMBER
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99.3: RB to provide agenda for IoP meeting.
102.2: JG to make Tier-1 more prominent on the web.
102.3: JG come up with a plan as to who the 9.5 EU posts are
matched against.
103.1: DB to prepare a proforma for PMB
103.2: RM to provide a news item on RGMA when WP7 finalised.
104.1: JG to email comments on Overlapping Grids Document to AP
104.2: RM & RJ to write a statement about ARDA with regard to improving
the format of the document
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