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Subject:

Minutes of the 109th GridPP PMB meeting

From:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Tony Doyle <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:08:14 +0000

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TEXT/PLAIN (22 lines) , 031222.txt (1 lines)

Dear All,

     Please find attached the weekly GridPP Project Management
Board Meeting minutes. The latest minutes can be found each week in:

http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/pmb/minutes/this-week.txt

(as well as being listed with other minutes e.g. 031222.txt).

            Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Tony
________________________________________________________________________
Tony Doyle, GridPP Project Leader            Telephone: +44-141-330 5899
Rm 478, Kelvin Building                        Telefax: +44-141-330 5881
Dept of Physics and Astronomy           EMail: [log in to unmask]
University of Glasgow             Web: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~doyle
G12 8QQ, UK                                      Video - IP: 194.36.1.32
________________________________________________________________________






GridPP PMB Minutes 109 - 22nd December 2003 =========================================== Present : Tony Doyle, Steve Lloyd, Dave Britton, Roger Jones. By phone: Peter Clarke & Tony Cass Apologies : Robin Middleton. PROFORMA-4 REPORTS ================== TD had sent DB comments on the most recent version of Proforma 4 and these were discussed in detail. On Q2, TD said that if the posts were broken down into specific roles, it would not be possible to give an overall summary and suggested identifying in percentage terms the major tasks each person does. DB said the answers for Q3 would assist with completing Q4 but he had added that Q3 answers would not be used for evaluation. An assessed average time spent on each job would suffice if the recipient were unsure. TC said it would be difficult to complete Q4 if you were not familiar with the area and therefore there would be a danger in under-reporting. It was agreed however, that the process was a difficult one and hard to break down but it could not be made any easier. TD said it was very important that the samples be split into two: PRSC and non-PRSC so that comparisons could be made and the differences highlighted. He also said that the proposed average output from PMB mechanism should be used to provide feedback to the PIs. PC said that input received from WP managers should be reviewed by someone outside that area. TD agreed and said that external statements could be requested from certain areas. TD stated that Tier-2 should preferably respond as a whole on the specialists posts. TD said he would draft a clarification e-mail on specialist support deliverables and future definitions of service levels giving a joint statement on context to SL (NEW ACTION). All Proforma-4s have to be returned to DB by 9th January. PPARC FUNDING - GRIDPP PRESS ANNOUNCMENT ======================================== TD reported that ~10 sites had followed up on the PPARC press release that had been made last Tuesday and suggested that we link to these from our own site. (This was done later by SL and included reports in Spanish, 'Cockney' and even the Terminator!) See http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/news/-1072118161.092936.wlg UK e-SCIENCE PARTICLE PHYSICS GRIDS MEETING - 18TH DECEMBER 2003 ================================================================ TD said that Tony Hey had arranged the meeting of GridPP/LCG/EGEE and the UK e-Science Community, as it was important that they work together. Tony Hey had discussed UK Production Grids and had defined a plan for a merger between the UK e-Science Production Grid with the EGEE Grid. Andy Parker gave a presentation on overlapping grid work and how this programme could be initiated. JG representing GridPP2 and e-Science would be in charge of this convergence leading the Grid Operations Centre. work on the production grid. The Production Grid would be GT2-based and operate throughout 2004. OMII would be responsible for establishing an OGSA-based Grid in the UK on a timescale of 2005. Review of Standing Items ======================== SI-2 : ALL: to provide any news items to SL. Reactions to PPARC press release were posted to the site. REVIEW OF ACTIONS ================= 102.2: JG to make Tier-1 more prominent on the web. ongoing 102.3: JG to come up with a plan as to who the 9.5 EU posts are matched against. ongoing 105.1: RM to prepare abstract/proposal for All Hands organisers by 19th December. done 108.1: DB to prepare final Proforma 1 Assessment Report Spreadsheet, following discussion with SL and TD. TD noted that there was no end date on the spreadsheet but DB said there that 95% of staff were still in post and this could be discerned from the reports anyway. (DB circulated the final proforma on Tuesday) Done NEW ACTION 109.1: TD to draft a clarification of service levels and deliverables giving a joint statement on context to SL (SL circulated an e-mail to UKHEPGRID shortly after the meeting) Done Standing Items ============== SI-1 : ALL: Continual review/improvement/update of the GridPP website. SI-2 : ALL: to provide any news items to SL. SI-3 : ALL: supply SL/TD with meeting dates for the web page. SI-4 : EB & TB to improve their areas of the web. ACTIONS AS AT 22ND DECEMBER =========================== 102.2: JG to make Tier-1 more prominent on the web. 102.3: JG to come up with a plan as to who the 9.5 EU posts are matched against.

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