Oops - sorry folks; it wasn't HJFRT, it was:
Film History, vol. 8 (1996), pp. 357-167. Several articles about Koleshov
and the effect. The one that is described in detail takes shots from four
different locations to create a single place. There's also discussion of an
experiment in which different parts of different models' bodies were edited
together to create a composite person. Not quite the same thing as the
effect but still fascinating.
Kuleshov writes about the 'effect' in the autobiographical "Fifty Years in
Film" which was published in a similarly titled collection of his writings.
Translated edition: Raduga, 1987 p.211
j
on 4/12/03 6:07 pm, John Riley at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> As I say; some examples have been found. I'll try to dig out the exact HJFRT
> reference which gives close descriptions and includes stills. Kuleshov also
> talks about it in one of his essays that was translated and published in a
> book called something like "Fifty Years in Film". Again I can get a proper
> reference to that at home. The films definitely exist. What audience
> reactions were could well be a matter for discussion.
>
> j
>
> on 4/12/03 4:52 pm, D Turley at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
>> But wasn't there some doubt as if the actual experiments took place? I'm
>> pretty sure that the supposed 'reactions' that were gained from the audience
>> were in some kind of dispute?
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: John Riley <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To: Film-Philosophy Salon <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Eisenstein and visual experience
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:51:39 +0000
>>>
>>> on 4/12/03 2:24 pm, daniel o'brien at [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in how the thoughts we have can affect our visual
>>>> experience. The famous example of this is the line drawing of the
>>>> duck-rabbit. This *looks different* depending on whether we are
>>> thinking of
>>>> this as a duck or as a rabbit. A friend of mine mentioned that
>>> Eisenstein
>>>> somewhere talks about this. His example is that of a film of a man's
>>> face.
>>>> This can look different dependent on whether it is intercut with
>>> pictures of
>>>> food, or children, or war, etc. Has anybody come across this? Is this
>>> in
>>>> one of his films? Where might there be references to this?
>>>
>>> Actually this is the so-called Kuleshov effect (after the director Lev
>>> Kuleshov) in which the same shot of an actor (Mozzhukhin in this case) was
>>> intercut with a child's coffin, a bowl of soup etc, the theory being that
>>> you would read his expression as sad at the former and hungry at the
>>> latter.
>>> This most famous example doesn't actually exist (Kuleshov was so strapped
>>> for cash that they experimented by making films without film). However some
>>> of them do exist and there was a report on their discovery in the
>>> Historical
>>> Journal of Radio Film and Television some years ago.
>>>
>>> j
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