> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Foster
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Global Warming Anyone?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Haimann <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Global Warming Anyone?
>
>
> > None yet.
> >
> > My wife wants two. I want one. Two will be our max depending
> on how the
> > negotiations go. :-) Hence, we may be replacers rather than reducers.
>
> Richard, ever think about adoption?
Yes,we are. Have you?
> >
> > If one were to call for rapid population reduction, and lead by example,
> > just what would that leader do? Note the words "rapid" and "reduction."
>
> There is rapid population reduction going now in 'local' areas such as on
> the continent of Africa. The main factor in that reduction are
> diseases like
> AIDS, malnutrition, and oh yeah war. It is interesting that in some
> 'locales' many of the persons affected by AIDS are the
> professional classes,
> the very persons which are qualified to offer real 'local' assistance.
> Unfortunately there is a lack of funds to purchase expensive
> patented drugs
> to assist the victims. Millions of children die each year because of
> unsanitary water.... What I think is important to realize is that the
> ecological factors such as 'over-population' and the structure of economic
> relations, not failing to mention political relations, are the
> main factors
> which are causing the worst problems. There is more than enough
> food in the
> world to feed all children, there is more than enough water, and
> so on, but
> due to various political relations which marginalize groups,
> there is a lot
> of inequity in how the food and othe necessities are distributed.
>
Sounds a bit like 18th century Europe.
> chao
>
> john
>
>
>
> >
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Steve
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:57 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Global Warming Anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Richard Haimann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > I've always felt that the best leaders were those who led by
> > > > example...
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard. Considering I only have one child and plan on having
> > > only one child, I guess I fit your qualifactions. Thank you for your
> > > endorsement.
> > >
> > > How many kids you got Richard?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
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> > > > (562) 628-1980
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> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Discussion forum for environmental ethics.
> > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of brad bartholomew
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:53 PM
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Global Warming Anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve says: "Yeah, I suppose someday the human race
> > > > > will die out. Seems to one of the lessons one can
> > > > > draw from biology and evolution."
> > > > >
> > > > > I would say that the human race would deserve to die
> > > > > out if we all thought like him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is he suggesting that we shouldn't try to solve
> > > > > environmental-population problems at all?
> > > > >
> > > > > As to his suggestion that the excptionally hot summer
> > > > > in Australia is just a local problem, it may be of
> > > > > interest to him to know that Antartica is in the
> > > > > Southern hemisphere as well. Quite close to Australia.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think his response to my posting was fair, and
> > > > > I don't think it was informed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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